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• 1. Devvil  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:09 am

  Cesc is a legend in the making. With every action, with every word he says, he proves that he has exactly the attitude we need at Arsenal. I love the kid!! Viva Fabregas!

• 2. habibur  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:24 am

  yeah,whatever…

• 3. gunners always  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:26 am

  Like you said blogger, if every Arsenal player had the same attitude and mentality, the last couple of seasons would have been a whole lot better.
  FORZA FABREGAS!!!

• 4. Cesc sums up our season -&hellip  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:34 am

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• 5. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:52 am

  The image emerging is of a dressing room that accepts defeat…
  If I get something wrong, if I play badly, if I fail, I like people to have a go at me for it. If I get it wrong, I want someone to tell me, to make that clear to me.

  Does no-one do that?
  Yes. But amongst ourselves sometimes there’s a kind of fear of saying things to each other. Maybe we have to lose that fear. If I fail, I want you to come up to me and tell me so, to scream at me, to have a go at me. That way I’ll be ready next time, forewarned.

  Are Arsenal too nice?
  Well… [long pause]…

  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  That says it all in my view.

• 6. *_Respect Highbury  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:43 am

  A very late hello all.

  That frankly candid interview with Cesc was a consummate summary of everything that is fundamentally wrong with this Arsenal team, confirmed this season. The way I see things, two people with unique and unprecedented access to the dressing rooms, i.e. William Gallas and Fabregas, have come out and pontificated at great painstaking length, just what this team lacks.

  To be perfectly honest, anybody that goes to watch the Arsenal or follows them on the telly, it should come as no surprise whatsoever to learn that many of the central issues we have long riled about, appear to be true.

  So to summarize the thoughts of Gallas and Fabregas, please allow me to elaborate on what I see as the principal problems and shortcomings of this frustratingly talented side:

  1) Winning mentality. Having read that interview with Cesc it has now been confirmed. He claims that after certain lost matches some people turn around with an attitude which infers that ‘no pasa nada’. Could you imagine a Roy Keane or a Patrick Vieira simply writing off a defeat?

  2) Attitude. This is the one I have been going on about ever since they drew at home to Newcastle. Cesc claims that at 1-0 up, or even at 0-0, the team seems to develop a sense of ‘we’ll win this, just a matter of time’. The attitude of this team is shocking for the small occasion (Sheffield, Fulham, Everton, PSV..). If not, can somebody please explain how we are the only team in the league to have taken 6 points off the Prem champions? Can anybody explain how we possess the best record amongst the top 4? But appositely, who can explain defeats at Fulham, City, Sheffield, West Ham at home, West Ham away, CSKA Moscow, Everton? Can anybody also explain the inexplicable manner in which goals are repeatedly conceded in the same manner, time after time?

  3) Lack of leadership. Well this is clear as day now. Cesc has confirmed it. Sometimes the lad would like someone to give him a blasting, a proverbial ‘hairdryer’. But it seems nobody has the balls, or the foresight to do so. Which leads me on nicely to…

  4) Lack of experience. Patrick Vieira, Tony Adams, Bould, Martin Keown, Ian Wright even and Dennis Bergkamp would never have accepted the sequence of tepid dropped points, all in virtually the same manner, time after time. Experienced pros would read the riot act and give home truths to the younger players, whilst simultaneously giving them guidance. As it stands, Henry is our captain, and him aside, only Gallas (who is new) possesses the necessary experience - and he has not been shy to speak out.

  5) Lack of application over a full 90 minutes. The whole problem with this team’s attitude is, that I remember Flamini coming out with all that claptrap in the aftermath of the ManUre defeat, stating the fact that United have a tendency to leak late goals. The irony is not lost on those of us who saw PSV equalize late on, Everton score in the 90th minute at Goodison, Chavski score in the 88th minute, West Ham beat us at Upton Park in the 89th minute, Blackburn knock us out of the FA Cup in the 87th minute, Chavski and Drogba knock us clean out in the Carling Cup final in the last ten minutes, Jenas score a stoppage time equalizer at the Lane just over a week ago,…etc….

  6) A failure to merge ideologies. I am a fan of the way Wenger plays his game. His football works. It creates chances and has won many trophies. However, of late, this team seems to have failed to carry out the union of beautiful flowing football, and winning matches. It appears that for example, in the case of the Carling Cup final; the feeling was one of elation over the sumptuousness of our aesthetic football. Through the eulogies of our youth team’s football, it appears many Gooners lost sight of the fact that we actually LOST the final. We need to realize that good football and winning matches are not mutually exclusive - you can win, and play good football at the same time. Hate to say it, but look at ManUre.

  7) Finishing. Quite simply, from midfield, from Hleb’s refusal to bury chances, to Baptista’s vaginal ‘finishing’, to Akin-B’s various glaring gilt-edged misses in his process of development; this Arsenal team are possibly the most profligate I have ever seen in over 40 years. I can name players far technically inferior, who would have buried some of the chances I have seen these lot miss. I am not talking Van Bastens or Romarios here; I am talking McSheffreys and Bents here. The perfect example for me, was West Ham at home. Bobby Zamora’s chance was infinitely harder than the chances Akin-B and Baptista, Rosicky and Hleb squandered all afternoon. He took his with aplomb… I remember one Gooner outside the Grove saying ‘if Zamora was in an Arsenal shirt today, we would have scored 6′.
  Some indictment.

  8 ) Wenger. I love the man, he is and always will be, a genius miracle worker to me. However, the finger has to be pointed at him. For me, many of the things Cesc and Gallas have claimed point to the manager. Cesc claims that it appears that nobody wishes to bruise egos. Cesc claims he sometimes wants to be told when he is cocking up,not have somebody tell him how well he performed regardless. For me, this is where Wenger’s post-match interview come into the fore.
  Many fans have claimed that what Wenger says one thing to the television microphones, but another to his players in private.

  Well, now I believe we now possess conclusive proof that what Arsene Wenger says about his players in public, is more or less an accurate reflection of what he asserts in private. Cesc’s interview highlights this - he claims the serenity that reigns in the dressing room after a defeat, almost gives an air of ‘que sera, sera’. That is NOT the kind of attitude one would expect of a load of winners.
  Could you imagine Rooney going out clubbing with JT and Fat Frank after losing an FA Cup final? Could you imagine a contented or nonchalant ManUre dressing room after any defeat? No chance.

  For me, the nadir was Wenger’s comments after we squandered 377 open-goal sitters at home to CSKA in the Champs League. Wenger claimed he had ‘never seen such a brilliant performances in all my time here’, and that it was extremely ’satisfying’. I personally, would have let rip at this juncture. No time for worrying about bruised egos - that night, Arsenal squandered enough chances to win 11 matches.
  Yet, they dropped 2 precious points at home, and confidence dips with that.

  Wenger needs to stop playing the doting new father, and needs to adopt the occasional ‘bad cop’ role. We have winners in this team such as Gallas, who has made some insightful statements - in his Observer interview, Gallas claims he would rather that this team learn to play long-ball and get stuck in, as this can serve you differently in tough situations, when playing against a vociferous away crowd.
  Cesc has confirmed that he would rather walk away with trophies, than with plaudits - it seems that the ideologies of Cesc, Gallas, Kolo, Henry and co…who prefer to win matches and trophies first, and worry about their images after.

  Then there are the likes of Clichy, Hleb, Akin-B, et al. who seem to care more about being aesthetic and playing well - whilst thinking about results after.

  9) Defending. It is quite simply, toilet at times. Arsenal hardly ever have any serious defending to do in a match. The only matches I have seen Arsenal have to perform regular defending in are the ones you would expect, i.e. Chavski away, Liverpool away in the league, ManUre away.
  In other matches, Arsenal hardly have a thing to do - but the one bit of serious defending they have to do, they can usually be relied on to utterly fluff. One can usually for example, count on Lehmann creating unnecessary work for himself to alleviate his frequent 3pm Saturday afternoon boredom…

  10) Width. That one could run and run…I suspect (and hope) that Wenger will address that problem come summer. It’s all well and fine having your full-backs providing the width but there is one problem with that: a) Clichy cannot deliver a final ball to save his life b) Eboue is quality, but is increasingly injury-prone c) Hoyte is plain shit.
  We do not stretch teams enough, and you will not need me to point to the width Ronaldo gives the Singaporeans, or the menace the Chavs possess when they play with Robben or Joe Cole.

  11) Tactics. Again, this one could run and run. Wenger needs to improve this, especially in Europe. For me, tactically, the Prem is not so challenging. Only Mourinho and Benitez will generally present you with a tactical headache. Curbishley will not, Moyes will not, Pardew will not, Boothroyd will not, and neither will Pearce or Jewell. In Europe, our tactics have left me on the edge of confusion and sometimes, laughter. Last season aside, I think the biggest problem here is playing players in their proper positions. For instance, I hate to see Diaby playing wide left. The worst tactical decision Arsene Wenger ever made, was to play Akin-B in the hole as a number 10, in a Bergkamp-type role, away in Eindhoven.
  For goodness sake the guy can barely perform in his natural position. This was aptly illustrated when he ended up running into Tomas Rosicky in the first half.
  Rosicky would be brilliant as a number 10 but has never been given his chance to operate there. Hleb is a number 10 stuck out on the right wing, and has underperformed this season in general (though I insist he has the quality to play at Arsenal).
  Time to play players in their proper positions. I know it has worked in the past with Henry and Kolo - but time to go back to basics.

  Anyhow. All that and we should be just about ready to win the lot next season! As an aside, I actually have a sneaky suspicion we may sneer Eto’o away from Barca, but only if they do not sell Ronaldinho to AC Milan. Oh well…roll on next season. Only reason I am up so late was to make a bloody conference call with the US. And now I need to sleep…

  So, good night all.

• 7. ey  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:42 am

  Respect,

  Buck Toothed Brasilian is hooking up with Franky R. daughter. Which can be good or bad if:

  1. Frank R. stays at Barca
  2. Goes to Meeelan

  Anyway, where would you play Eto’o?

• 8. Keats  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:13 am

  Respect_Highbury,

  I think much of your analysis has some merit, but your criticism of Adebeyor (as you call him, Akin-B, after Ade Akinbiyi, I presume) is irresponsible.
  He has been one of the few players who has stood out for me with his workrate, constant hassling of the defense, he is always in the mix.
  Yes, his finishing has been shocking at tiimes, but to accuse him of worring about aethetics over winning is ridiculous.
  Save your salvo for the players who deserve the brow beating.

• 9. Gunner_in_America  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:42 am

  Keats,

  I agree with your defense of Ade. He is a gem…the goal he scored on Sunday is a teaser of what he will regularly deliver once he becomes more confident in his prodigious natural abilities and soccer intelligence; he is a fearsome runner both on and off the ball, and if he can continue to pick his spots in the back of the net as he did vs. Fulham we’re looking at a 15-20 goal man as our 3rd striker with everyone healthy.

  Eto’o is not needed. We will have three world-class strikers come August. No need to splash much of our budget on a luxury like Eto’o. Some people forget just how good RVP was before his injury; in my opinion he will become a regular 20 goal scorer for us. What we really need is a wide player or two to give us that extra dimension to allow us more room all over the pitch for movement and precision passing. I would prefer Ricardo Quaresma, provided the price is not too prohibitive. He is only 23 and has impressed me in the CL this year against some quality opposition. Ribery would be a fine pick-up as well.

  Any thoughts?

• 10. Grovelad  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:52 am

  We need a ‘Roy Keane’ or Adams, who can give a blasting to players then they are not giving 100%. The way I see it, only Jens sometimes shouts at his defenders. But he himself is not playing well at the moment. If only Gilberto and Kolo can step up to the plate.

  And AW, can we sign Cesc for 20 more years?? that will make him 39 while he finishes his contract. Well Sheringham can play till 40…

• 11. mills  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:16 am

  respect highbury,
  how long winded and pompous can one so-called gooner be??

• 12. gooner1  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:42 am

  i luv dat kid cesc a boy from da continent with heart

  respect highbury

  good comments, alot of truth but i agree with gunner in america ade is an asset and wants to win also clichy has a inner desire. cant be said for people like eboue whi is letting the team down

  wenger should stick toure right back and go for a no nonsense aerialy dominat cb in the mould of vidic, terry to polay alongside gallas. if not put his faith in sendoros and give the kid a chance

  Bring in andy cole would be an excellant 5th striker and a role model for our youngsters up front.

  Finally bring back MARTIN KEOWN to the training ground!!!!!!!!!!1

• 13. disco dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 7:26 am

  Thanks for your insightful contribution Mills.

  Respects talks sense.

• 14. Arseblog - “It̵&hellip  |  May 1st, 2007 at 8:31 am

  [...] Gunnerblog has some very interesting quotes from Cesc which are taken from an interview with 442 magazine. The main thing you’d take from it is the lack of someone to give the players a bit of a bollocking when things haven’t gone right. How much could this team improve with a Tony Adams or Roy Keane style player in the dressing room? A lot, I think, but then it’s easy to say. Those kinds of players don’t just grow on trees. That said it doesn’t necessarily have to be a player, does it? What strikes me is that Arsene seems to use the same technique with young players as older player. While the older player can mull over what’s gone wrong perhaps the younger ones need a bit more guidance. I dunno. [...]

• 15. Jimmy  |  May 1st, 2007 at 8:50 am

  Respect: Please, not many people have time or inclination to read the long winded comments you usually post. This is a comments section. If you want to outline your manifesto for Arsenal football club then get yourself a blog or a publisher.

• 16. AusGunner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 8:58 am

  Respect, you make some reasonable points but some attacks on the playing staff, or suggestions that they don’t seem to care after losing matches (despite Cesc’s interview, I’m sure that monster week in February hit them all very hard) is completely unfair. You’re painting some players, like Clichy - who has shown nothing but 100% commitment and effort all 2007 (and, despite your selective attention, can deliver a final ball, but it definitely needs to and can improve) - as people who simply shrug their shoulders when the result doesn’t go their way and I don’t believe that. Cesc’s interview suggests that’s not their approach, they simply seem to think after they lose that they will win the next game because they’re a very good team - and make no mistake, when this team is in full flight, they are a very, very good team - but of course winning isn’t that simple. They need to prove their arrogance on the pitch. It stems from Cesc saying that we’re obliged to win matches, but sometime it takes that little bit extra to do that, and it’s probably not as easy as people think.

• 17. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:00 am

  I’m gonna defend Ade as well actually. We talk about the lack of desire and commitment in the team but Ade is usually the outstanding player in terms of the effort he puts into the display.
  We all know he can be erratic but don’t forget he is only just turned 22 a few months ago. He isn’t the finished article by any means but to me he’s shown glimpses of the player he can become which is pretty special. We don’t have anyone else with his strength up front and nobody scares opposition defences at set peices like he does. Remember that equaliser against Spurs last year which Thierry scored but which owed everything to Ade? What about the game against Pompey which he turned around? His display against Utd away?

  The thing which I love about Ade is that even if he’s having a shocking game he’ll still cover every blade of grass, even if he misses a sitter he’ll still want the ball and have another crack 2 minutes later. Some players hide if things aren’t going well, Ade doesn’t.

  For me Ade isn’t a first choice striker (yet) by any means, and he wouldn’t be playing every week if Thierry and RVP were both fit but he’s come in and given his all. In my opinion he’s a decent third choice striker though, and he does offer that ‘plan B’ that some fans have been calling out for.

  I was annoyed as anyone about his socialising with the Chavski team after the LC Final, and with his having his arm around Diouf after a game at the Reebok but I don’t think we can question his commitment. Anyone recall that picture of Bobby Moore and Pele in Mexico cuddling after England lost to Brazil…nobody said anything about Moore, it was hailed as great sportsmanship. As long as Ade gives everything for Arsenal during the game then as far as I’m concerned he can be friends with who he likes off the pitch. Don’t forget he got sent off for scrapping (Supposedly) with Chavski players earlier the same day so his going for a drink with them later certainly didn’t seem to hinder his commitment to our cause.
  Ade is an Arsenal legend in the making.

• 18. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:12 am

  so cesc feels that the team is 2 nice & he/they would play better if they were told that they done something wrong…

  most of u agree with this

  so why do ppl get annoyed at the crowd moaning or booing?

  cesc feels that this makes him play better!

  LD i can mind u saying how it affected hleb negitatively

  does this mean that AW is a bad man manager? is he too afraid to have words with everyone incase it has a negitative on them?

  surely it is his job to identify who responds best to which type of management.

  or, like his tactics, he decides which is the better method & then applys it overall.

• 19. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:12 am

  which would be a bad thing

• 20. Amos  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:21 am

  Much of what Cesc really had to tell us is held in the first two questions. Finishing, experience, intelligence (for which read know-how) and concentration and are the ‘missing’ ingredients as far as Cesc is concerned.

  The lack of passion that Cesc alludes too is probably little more than an uncertainty as to what to bollock who for. With greater experience comes greater certainty as to what positions who should take up and where and when. It’s then easier to criticise someones actions or lack of them. That solidarity that Cesc refers to comes from familiarity and as yet you have the feeling that the players are still getting to know each other while the real leaders are still in their teens or early twenties. This season will have helped develop that bond and the dressing room leaders should come to the fore as they themselves mature.

• 21. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:25 am

  guess who’s back, back again
  tubes is back, tell a friend
  guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back……

  FG, normally i agree with things you say, but the bit where you say ade has just turned 22 i dont agree with because as far as im concerned you can say that next year and the year after. At 22 he’s not the finished article but he isn’t far away and although he’s scored some important goals for us he hasn’t done enough to make me have enough faith in him to belive he’s arsenal class.

• 22. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:28 am

  amos, should this not be the responsibility of the manager?

  or our captain & vice captain, both are near 30!!!

  dont they have the experience that u say is required?

• 23. Paul  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:34 am

  #18 ron

  People get annoyed about booing because it is not constructive criticism.

  I agree the squad needs someone who will shout, get angry but at the same time be constructive and let the players know where they are going wrong and how to put it right. I have believed for a long time that the only thing wrong with the squad is its mentality. It has the quality to win things already but not the wimnning attitude.

  Booing will not help that, it will only hinder. Booing is destructive; it doesn’t offer the solution. It only makes the players more negative.

• 24. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:39 am

  Cheers Tubes…now I’m gonna have that song in my head all day!! Strange question, have you heard Snow Patrols version of ‘How Come’ by D12?? Fucking brilliant.
  Points taken on Ade’s age.
  So let me try a different tactic….This is Ade’s first full season, remember how awful Drogba’s was? He looked much worse than Ade has this year. What do you reckon? Better case?

• 25. habibur  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:39 am

  *_Respect Highbury ,
  why don’t you write your own blog?

• 26. Good to be a GOONAH!!  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:39 am

  I argee with these defences of Adebayor.

  This boy runs through walls for the Arsenal and seems a better partner for RVP and Henry that they are for each other.

  His tireless workrate and rugged willingness to do dirty work free both our top strikers to find chances in front of goal.

  Also, in recent weeks he’s proven to have a pretty decent cross… and an eye for a pass. Its not his fault that Baptista cant score…

• 27. Amos  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:41 am

  Wenger has never been a tea cup thrower - his is a more urbane management style but has in the past still enabled him to get the most out of a variety of different characters. Both TH & GS are experienced players nurturing a young team but it reallys needs the younger players to lose a little respect for the older players and start asserting themselves in the dressing room. This comes naturally with maturity and familiarity.

• 28. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:45 am

  cesc “i need to be told when i have done something wrong”

  paul - so when a player has a clear shooting chance but chooses to pass & the crowd react by either booing or shouting ’shoot’, using cesc’s logic the next time he is in that position, he will shoot.

  so more shots should mean more goals, which means the booing has had a positive effect!!

  anyway, if u read all of my post, you will see that i stated it can have a negitative effect on some players.

  i then went on to say that it should be the job of AW to identify which players respond best to which method.

  i think he uses the praise approach on all the players, which i feel is not the best way, different strokes for different folks…

  i think AW is bad at this, also like using the same playing style against all opponents.

  more flexibility would increase overall performance

• 29. rick derris  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:54 am

  respect highbury - ever heard of the word ‘concise’? your rants are incredibly long, not to mention dull.

• 30. Arsenal Analysis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:55 am

  When the heavy guns return from injuries and a few well chosen additions to the squad are made( a pacy winger and a forward) then we may see Arsenal going two or three up in the first half again as they used to do in the Premiership winning seasons.

  Arsenal showed that once they start converting their chances and kill teams off they will be serious challengers for next season.

• 31. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:56 am

  FG,
  yeah thats a better way of putting it, see i think players get better or should get better every year until they start to lose their speed or judgement etc which is normally around the 30 mark, ok you get some exceptions but thats generally the norm. Players like theo will definatly improve because he’s only 17 and so is still growing and filling out its similar with cesc he was tiny when he was 17 but although he’s not a man mountain or anything he’s certainly filled out a lot and its harder to knock him off the ball.
  haven’t heard the snow patrol version of ‘how come’ but i liked the D12 song and i like snow patrol so’i'll probably like it. did they record it for radio 1 or something?

• 32. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:02 am

  I’m all for our players having crack at goal when they have the chance but there’s no way booing can be viewed as ‘constructive’. If I was a player I wouldn’t be on the ball thinking “They must be booing cos I’m not having a shot, I’ll shoot next time”, I would be thinking “They must be booing cos think I’m shit”. Imagine what that does for the confidence, as Ron acknowledges..

  Some players, when the crowd started turning recently, started having shots from silly positions when they’d have been better off passing. It’s all about choosing the right opportunity to have a crack, not having a crack every time you get two seconds on the ball within 50 yards of the goal.

  More shots doesn’t necesarily mean more goals, eg Arsenal V West Ham. We had more than twenty shots, they had one. It isn’t about the amount of shots, it’s about their quality.

• 33. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:03 am

  Yeah it was for Radio One, it’s on the Live Lounge Album.

• 34. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:05 am

  also most teams that we play defend against us weather it be at home or away so that normally means they have a lot more people behind the ball which means the likelyhood of scoring greatly decrease’s.

• 35. Paul  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:11 am

  #28 ron

  I agree with a lot of what you say regarding Wenger and his weakness at motivating some of the players.

  I can’t agree with the statement that booing has a positive effect.
  The players aren’t idiots. They know when they have played badly.

  What they need is someone on the inside who they respect to tell them in no uncertain terms what’s going wrong. Not their supporters sitting there booing them.

  Look at Hleb. Technically a marvellous player but one of the weakest players mentally. When he is full of confidence he takes on players, beats them, makes incisive passes, makes things happen. When he is low on confidence, he becomes indecisive, holds the ball too long, loses possession. Now he has become the ’scapegoat’ of the crowd, you can see his anxiety every time he gets the ball. The more the crowd shows their discontent with him, the worse he becomes. I don’t know what the solution is with Hleb. Maybe he just hasn’t got what it takes mentally to play at this level. But I know that booing him makes it worse, not better.

  I don’t think Cesc is referring to the crowd when he says he wants someone to tell him when he’s fucking up. He wants someone within the management/ his fellow team mates to do that.

  The role of the fans is important. But it is one of encouragement and support. Its the role of the management to deal with criticism and in a constructive way. I think what Cesc is telling us is this is where the problem lies with Arsenal, the management aren’t doing it.

• 36. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:16 am

  im gettin bored now…

  where the fuck is little dutch?

• 37. gazzap  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:30 am

  the buzz word from that was Attitude. so which players have got the right attitude?
  Cesc, Gallas, Toure, Clichy, Djourou, Hoyte, Diaby, Freddie, Gilberto, Denilson, Adebayor

  Rosicky?, Henry?, RVP? Lehmann?

  Bad attitude (this season) Eboue, Hleb and Baptista

  Drop the last 3 and tell the middle 4 to sort themselves out next season.

  but our problems go beyond this. we pride ourselves on being a team based on attacking flowing football but then have a midfield pair that sit off and wait for the ball rather than hunt it down in order to make counter attacks happen. they wait for the game to come to them - we dont catch teams on the hop anymore. by the time gilberto gets the ball the opposition are already fairly well set, but if you disrupt the opposition and get in amongst them and hunt the ball you can catch the other team on the break and thats where we used to score all our goals (and to a smaller extent still do).
  compare to man u who dont bother with a sitting midfielder at all. they go with 2 attacking players who can tackle well and can pass well and also crucially score goals from 30 yards.
  I understand why chelsea and liverpool play with a holding midfielder-thats their style, but why Arsenal play with Gilberto is still a mystery to me. he is an excellent defensive midfielder but he’s at the wrong club! we need to be playing to our strenghts and that is to focus on winning the ball back and scoring goals. we always used to win 4-2, 5-3 whatever and we did not give a damn that we conceded what usually were consolation goals.

  trying to be half defensive and half attacking is neither here not there. we are caught between 2 stalls and getting neither right. what we need is a ball winner, a chaser, a harrier in the middle next to a creative player. basically we should copy man u’s philosophy. fergie only ever plays midfielders who can score goals, scholes, giggs, ronaldo, carrick, even fletcher has a goal threat. they all have balls as well and focus on outscoring the opponent. its great to watch and we used to be the best in the world at it.
  I think wenger basically has the tactics wrong at the moment.
  thats not to say i’d sell gilberto. 4-5-1 is still useful in europe and away in some tricky prem games and then I would use gilberto.

• 38. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:32 am

  Yep, its official. We’re gonns a sign Eto’o! Must be true its on Clubcall, I mean, they dont write utter bollocks do they?

  Are we all still calling each other cuntflapdicktwatwankers?

• 39. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:39 am

  geekov, fuck of u cuntflapdicktwatwanker

• 40. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:03 am

  Geekov is a cuntflapdicktwatwanker…. ; )

  Respect Highbury… would hate to be stuck in an elevaor with you pal…

  Strip away all the crap and its a problem of leadership…. Personally I believe Wenger made Henry captain solely to ensure he didn’t leave us for Barca… and it was the wrong decision… look at the Arsenal captains of the past…. Henry is a fantastic player, the best Arsenal has ever seen, but he is not captain material…

  We need to install a mentality that losing is not acceptable… ever… regardless of how well we play…. there is a danger that having been runners up in the ECL and CC finals, the players will begin to beileve they are an “almost” team…

  ….but with the experience gained this year and a fully fit team next year… I believe we will be right up there….

  TC

• 41. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:04 am

  do ron ron ron da do ron ron….

• 42. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:06 am

  like the signiture at the end of your post topcat

  T

• 43. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:09 am

  who was arsenals first ever million pound signing?

  r

• 44. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:12 am

  ron, everyone knows that it was clive allen, i din’t use google either.

  T

• 45. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:14 am

  Clive Allen.
  FG

• 46. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:14 am

  And he never played a game, strange transfer. Swapped him for Kenny Sansom almost straight away…

• 47. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:16 am

  Thanks Tubes….

  Imitation is the highest form of flattery… ; )

• 48. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:17 am

  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  smart arse

  T

• 49. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:18 am

  smart arse was directed at FG

• 50. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:20 am

  lol. Yes I am…

• 51. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:24 am

  Ok here’s one….who are the four players who have played football for both Arsenal FC and Juventus?

• 52. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:25 am

  Brady, Vieira….ummmm

• 53. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:25 am

  platt

• 54. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:25 am

  Thierry

• 55. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:26 am

  top marks….

• 56. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:27 am

  more, more, more.

• 57. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:29 am

  Who was the last Arsenal player to score on his full England debut?

• 58. Dennis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:31 am

  Wooh! Just finished reading ‘Respects’s long-ass post. It was very long but nevertheless I have to say it was another top post and I agree with 90% of it. ‘Amos’ touched on it too when he says that the younger players need to lose respect for the older ones. I think the thing is…The one thing I want to clear up is the whole Ade thing. Ade is a good player and I doubt ‘Respects’ is calling him shit. He actually speaks of ‘his stage of development’ which to me anyway, suggests that Ade IS a good player (Sunday’s goal?) but that while he is developing it is costing us points. And I also agree with the other guy who said that he does not look Arsenal class. He works hard but he is supposed to score and score lots too. He needs too many chances to score.
  Amos it’s a good point on intelligence and experience I suppose but wouldn’t you say/admit thatWenger has not helped by selling Vieira and Pires? The Lauren decision especially is a shocker an absolute howler imo…Ron on the whole booing thing: it is NOT CONSTRUCTIVE. It can never help the players and will not give them a kick up the ass. No way. Best thing to do is for Wenger to bollock them. Amos I know it’s not Wenger’s style but don’t you think it is about time he learnt?

• 59. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:34 am

  dennis,
  i said the arsenal class bit…
  FG, was it ian wright?

• 60. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:35 am

  it think wrighty against italy…. but wasnt he a sub?

• 61. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:38 am

  Wrighty didn’t score for ages for England. His first was as a sub though, against Poland away.
  Not him….

• 62. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:40 am

  When I said ‘full debut’ I mean for the full england side, not the U21s or B Team.

• 63. Bobby P.  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:41 am

  Well said Dennis. I think it’s time Wenger learnt to add a new side to hs management. Playing the Pussycat is not going to work with spoilt teenagers. People are talking about it being experience, experience and how this is the players’ faults but what these same people forget to say is that Wenger released our experience and took a huge gamble that backfired. ‘*_Respects’ by the way exellent post. Any twat who moans about it not being concise enough is talk shit. Fact is, better to see someone take the time to detail problems in an educated manner instead of spouting the same old shit. That post and the one from ‘Falklands Gooner’ are the best posts I have seen on here today.
  Or perhaps we should sod it all and let ‘Ron’ amuse us with his smelly unfunny toilet humour and bullshit.

• 64. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:42 am

  haven’t had time to read all the posts as I’m back at work. Couldn’t keep on pretending I was ill for that long!

  Ade is a good player and will hopefully develop into a top top striker. He has done well in big games and scored important goals. So, he hasn’t banged in a shit load, but he nis always there in good positions and believe it or not, some strikers actually do create chances for others. They are not akll goal hangers like Owen & Inzaghi (dunno why I chose him?) How many has he set up? Loads I think. The real problem this season has been the likes of our other back up strikers; The Bap and Alliaiere. They have just not done it, coz they aint good enough. Theo may have been able to help out with the goals, but he’s been carrying in juries as we all know.

  These problems will be solved, hopefully, by getting rid of the 2 players mentioned and injured players coming back and new ones brought in. (again, hopefully!) Our midfield as well have not come up with the goods in terms of goals. But to pin the blame on Ade is missing nthe point and missing what he brings to the team. I rate him and am sure he’ll be a better player for us next season.

• 65. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:44 am

  im perplexed FG, i give up.

• 66. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:46 am

  cuntflapdicktwatwanker

• 67. Amos  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:47 am

  Somehow I don’t see throwing tea cups ever coming as naturally to Wenger as it perhaps does to Fergie (though by some accounts he has lost the hairdryer in recent times) but I am not sure that it would help him get anymore out of the players than he does now.

  The debate about whether it was right or wrong to let Vieira and Pires go has surfaced regularly and there isn’t much point in resurrecting now but Wenger has said himself that he feels it was a mistake to let Vieira and Edu go in the same season so it is fair to assume that he understands letting experienced players go has left us short of experience in the short term but considers that maybe it’s a price worth paying over the longer term.

• 68. Bobby P.  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:48 am

  GazzaP post 37 is absolutely on the money my man. We do not need Gilberto. We are a naturally attacking team and we STILL cant defend even with Gilberto in the side. So why bother with him? Put Rosick in the middle or stick Diaby in there and make it an all-out attacking unit. The reason our unbeaten team was good was cos we had 2 excellent tacklers in the middle in Vieira and G19. Both different defensively but complimented each other well. Now we have a team full of attackers and one token ’shield’ in there who has to do all the work on his own. It simply does not work.

• 69. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:48 am

  Tubes- You’ll kick yourself…you sure you give up?

• 70. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:49 am

  bobby p - “Well said Dennis. I think it’s time Wenger learnt to add a new side to hs management.

  Or perhaps we should sod it all and let ‘Ron’ amuse us with his smelly unfunny toilet humour and bullshit”

  i think u will find that it was me who said wenger should alter his management style!

  also i have only said one joke all day

  bobby p, its obvious that u r respects highbury anyway…

  cock

• 71. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:51 am

  kenny sansom?

• 72. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:53 am

  yeh go on then FG

• 73. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:54 am

  I’ll narrow it down….last 5 years.

• 74. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:55 am

  david platt?

• 75. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:57 am

  Cuntley Cole?

• 76. Dennis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:57 am

  Amos you are missing the point. It’s not about throwing teacups as you claim. That is too narrow an interpretation. What I mean is that Wenger should stop coming up with bullshit in his post-match interviews. I totally think the example ued by ‘Respects’ of his interview after the CSKA match was fitting. Seriously I dunno how many chances they missed that night. And Wenger bigs them up on tv afterwards. Fergie would probably have snubbed the media. What I mean is that he does not have to throw teacups. Maybe get a good number 2 who is going to lose it now and then and let rip. Like i said I live in Spain. At Barcelona, Frank R. said that one of the main reasons they were so successful last season was because his number 2 Henk Ten Cate used to play the ‘bad guy’. Rijkaard is just like Wenger. Both chilled out dudes. So get your number 2 to do it for you. But what the fuck does Pat Rice do?
  And Amos coming out with stuff like ‘winning isn’t everything’ well…..no wonder the players fell no pressure.

• 77. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:58 am

  francis jeffers

• 78. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:58 am

  Well played Ron!! Franny Jeffers!!!!!!!!! The Fox in the box!
  How could you forget the legend of the rat faced boy??

• 79. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:00 pm

  fuck, i forgot all about him, good question FG.

• 80. Bobby P.  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:01 pm

  Ron you sad muppet. I love the way every time someone rumbles you that have to be someone else. Joker. No. I am Bobby P. and I have slammed you on this site before. I reckon if ‘Respects’ wants to diss you he wouldn’t need me to do it. Or maybe Ron fact is that the other 251 ppl who have dissed you on this blog like Mark, Greg, Alan, Ey, Respects…maybe they are all the same ppl? Course not you cunt.

• 81. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:01 pm

  Dunnom why we keep harping on about lack of goals scored anyways. Its the fucking defense that’ve been the main culprits. When I say the defense I mean the whole teams defending. But of course the defense are mainly respeonsible for the , er, defense! So many sloppy goals conceded, so many goals from nothing , so many goals scored by opposition temas on their one and only attempt, no wonder we seem to need to chase games when the team let in unbelievably naive goals. They haven’t got better as the season has gone on, they’ve got worse. We have one of the worst clean sheet records this year.

  They don’t seem to do the basics, I wonder if they even do much training as a unit. Not asking for much, just a bit of basic coaching wouldn’t go amiss.

  BRING BACK MONKEY FACE KEOWN!

• 82. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:01 pm

  so, the stupid IRISH guy that tells unfunny jokes gets it correct

  interesting…

• 83. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:02 pm

  Cheers FG… I had managed to erase that tard from my memory…. now he’s right back in there!

  Good questions though…

• 84. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:02 pm

  Francis Jeffers scored on his England debut v Australia

• 85. Dennis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:02 pm

  Amos said:

  ‘The debate about whether it was right or wrong to let Vieira and Pires go has surfaced regularly and there isn’t much point in resurrecting now but Wenger has said himself that he feels it was a mistake to let Vieira and Edu go in the same season so it is fair to assume that he understands letting experienced players go has left us short of experience in the short term but considers that maybe it’s a price worth paying over the longer term.’

  Fair enough Amos.

  But could please explain then why Wenger let Pires and then Lauren go after that? He does not learn from hs mistakes.

• 86. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:02 pm

  ron… congrats …. I know how much it means to you,….

• 87. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:04 pm

  Well done ron, you’re a genius fella.

  cuntflapdicktwatwanker

• 88. Bobby P.  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:04 pm

  Geekov well-said mate on 81. Defence is the REAL problem for me and Keown would sort them out sharpish.

• 89. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:04 pm

  i got one,
  which player scored the most goals for arsenal in one game?

• 90. Bobby P.  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:06 pm

  Ron you’re still a stupid mug but fair play on getting the Franny Jeffers one…I didn’t get it myself…

• 91. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:06 pm

  i think your putting alot of pressure on Keown to sort out a bunch of defenders who frankly look unmotivated and lack interest

• 92. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:07 pm

  ted drake 7

• 93. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:07 pm

  That would be Ted Drake… pub quiz question that….

• 94. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:08 pm

  ur turn ron….

• 95. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:08 pm

  i reckon the likes of bobby p should have more respect for me now that i have got both correct

• 96. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:08 pm

  thats why im not a quizmaster, well done lads.

• 97. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:08 pm

  who was the last person to score 5 goals for Arsenal in one match?

• 98. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:09 pm

  TC “pub quiz question that….”

  i bet u regret writing that ha ha

• 99. davey b  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:10 pm

  maybe its wenger who aint got the balls cause that comment that winning is nt everything ,and gallas and fabregas comments suggesting we lack motivation and organisation just compounds our misery even more, cause wenger could have done more which is a question as a manager you should never have to reproach yourself over wenger thinks this club is his toy, he has no dialogue with the fans about transfers money available, transfer targets or lack of, protects the players from critcism lets a raft of experienced players go brings in a load of kids hes unable to get the best out of and does nt want to drop them when out of form, this club belongs to arsene thats why he takes such huge gambles with the club and is afforded the freedom to do so let me ask you whos motavating him

• 100. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:12 pm

  ron… why would I regret writing that?

• 101. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:12 pm

  oh.. cos you beat me… i geddit…. ya… I regret it…

• 102. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:13 pm

  cos u may have got it first if u hadn

• 103. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:13 pm

  Bobby P, yeah Keown did alright last season when he came in. And was only really doing his coaching badges. he wasn’t really there in a specific capacity. I feel that if he (or someone else, like, maybe Bouldy) were given the job of defensive coach then there is no reason that they cannot get themselves into a strong unit. I feel that we have performed well defensively, but those performances seem like years ago as the season has petered out to nothing. Now, there may be a sense of ‘couldnt be bothered’ by some, but I feel that was probably down to a sense of utter pissed offness! Going out of everything, yadda yadda…

  If they are not motivated about playing for \Arsenal week in and week out and not just the big games, then they can ship out for all I care. No matter what y9ou think about Senderos and Djourou, and I think Phill’s been a bit of a scapegoat as well as some poorish displays, you could not fault their commitment to the cause.

  GET MONKEY FACE IN!

• 104. davey b  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:15 pm

  inevitable ,one dimmensional ,phisically weak ,no width ,bad defending ,cannot score from set pieces ,no motivation ,no leaders ,inconsistent

  just a few traits we have been suspect to

• 105. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:17 pm

  CNM-Tony Woodcock??

• 106. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:17 pm

  Get Keown in????Why the fuck cant Wenger sort the defence out he is the manager for fuck’s sake.Maybe he should do a bit more than stand on the touch line watching a two touch practise match where your not allowed to shoot outside the box, corners and all other free kicks are banned and your not allowed to do anything that resembles a full blooded tackle.

• 107. Amos  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:17 pm

  I was using the tea cup throwing analogy to illustrate the point that Wenger will not be able to change his personality radically enough to be something that he isn’t and that in any event his management methods have served him in good stead over a long period of time. You can argue that maybe he needs another number 2 or a more vocal captain to counterbalance his more laid back style and I can accept the argument that some more ‘fireworks’ occassionally would stimulate the group a little more (isn’t that what was supposed to have happened after the Sheffield game?) but frankly I think these are all peripheral issues. I agree with Cescs answers to the opening questions which is that the results depend on finishing, experience and concentration - all developmental characteristics amongst the present group of players. The rest of the interview was made of leading questions that Cesc was trying to answer in a balanced way - saying at one time that he wants people to let him know when he has gone wrong and then admitting that that is what happens - but maybe not enough.

  I am sure that most people when they see their words in print, invariably out of context, Wenger included, might wish they had expressed themselves differently. Those reading these opinions should be able to join them up with things that have been said and done before and not fall into the trap of picking one phrase from one interview as defining a full opinion.

• 108. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:18 pm

  Yeah Woodcock v Aston Villa in about 1983

• 109. A Typical Moron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:22 pm

  Heres a question; when is the last time Arsenal won the European Cup/Champs Leauge?

• 110. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:23 pm

  ah, a trick question

  the answer is, they have never won it

  yes, thats me on 3 now…

• 111. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:24 pm

  Who was the last player to leave Arsenal and then come back and play for us again later in their career??

• 112. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:24 pm

  martin keown…

• 113. davey b  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:24 pm

  AMOS the fact is we have not got 7/10 out of these players every week which is probably the minimum to win games ,we have not got that extra 10% out of these players thats nothing to do with development in my opinion its about fear of being dropped or sold or taken off at halftime or dropped when out of form, or being told whats exceptable if its not a trait of your mangment then maybe you should transfer the frustration and petulants you display on the touchline to the players at halftime

• 114. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:25 pm

  keown?

• 115. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:25 pm

  Ok ron.. how about you ASK a question?

• 116. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:26 pm

  That’s right, Keown. Who, incidentally, was the last Everton player before Wayne Rooney to score for England..

• 117. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:26 pm

  Most of these problems have been exaggerated since we went out of everything. When we got beat in the Carling Cup, I thought, well, that was a top performance by the Kids, that’ll do em good. Chavs played their strongest available team and we outplayed em. Thought, right, we’ll stuff Blackburn and then beat PSV no bother. But I bet I weren’t the only one?

  But we didn’t, did we? We played that game at home to Blackburn and just didn’t turn up. Why was that? Were they too complacent or what? I dunno. Then they went to Einhoven, played well first half without looking like scoring, then had a mare in the second half. PSV played for a 0-0 at home and got lucky. Then we have the replay at Blackburn, we played OK, should have won but got suckered by a l;ate goal after Phil was put in at RB (mistake or what?) then we play PSV and agian, I thought we played well but we shot ourselves in the foot as per usual this season and go out! Big fucking disapointment. Wenger said he made mistakes and he did. Playing an unfit Henry, for starters, playing players out of position (what tye fuck was all that playing Gilberto at CB when we had CBs on the bench?

  I only really noticed this lack of motivation after the cup defeats really. I think the way the team plays lgives the impression of not giving a fuck (in most cases) but the shocking amount of sloppy goals conceeded and wasteful finishing have done us loads this year.

  I hope it will be resolved and I dont see why it cant be either.

• 118. Bobby P.  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:26 pm

  Ron fairplay. I’ll be a little kinder to you from now on if you stop being so silly. I think today is the 1st time I ever saw you talk about football and it was actually quite interesting!

  Geekov well said again mate. My sentiments exactly. I get fucking pissed off when i hear ppl making excuses for these players by saying ‘they lack motivation’. WHAT??? Playing in front of a 60,000 full-house week in week out on top dollar is not good enough? The fuck off. I would rather stick Senderos and Djourou in there. In fact…I would drop Jens and Hleb until the end of the season. I totally agree with 3 main things basically.
  1) Geekov that for me the defence is the worst part of this team. Yeah sure our back-up strikers are a bit shady but our defence is seriously crap.
  2) ‘Respects’ on when he said that Wenger has to stop coming out with bullshit in his interviews and has to start getting experience balance right
  3) GazzaP on our midfield combo being all wrong.

• 119. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:27 pm

  tubes, only proper arsenal fans could get that right so quickly

  so that should be the end of ppl calling us spuds…

• 120. gazzap  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:30 pm

  I dont know, I think shouting at a player who has fucked up does not do them any good. Every players in the world knows when he has fucked up and knows when he has played well. I know cesc wants someone to have a word with him but he needs constructive advice as do all the players eg suggestions of what he could more of. A good slagging off just dents confidence. IMO this is one area where wenger does get it right. BUT when wenger comes out and says stuff like “I was really pleased tonight with the game - best i’ve seen in my time here” etc after we have missed 20 chances and lost or drawn the game and tells the same to the players then that really annoys me.

• 121. me  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:30 pm

  Ron, you’re not a Y*d, but you do have a potato head.

• 122. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:31 pm

  good thinking ron, but how do we get people to stop calling us the same person and accusing us of being bum lovers?

• 123. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:31 pm

  Didnt AFC win the Euro Cup on Sunday?

• 124. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:32 pm

  who did arsenal play against in the biggest ever attended match at highbury (god rest her soul)?

• 125. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:32 pm

  When you go out of 3 competions in 11 days then you really have to question how good the manager is at picking up players after a bad defeat.

• 126. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:33 pm

  good point geekov. take that moron.

• 127. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:34 pm

  was it nicky barmby?

• 128. Topcat  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:34 pm

  I wouldnt count on it Ron…. you could be spuds with Google! ; )

• 129. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:36 pm

  Tubes-Sunderland?

• 130. Dennis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:36 pm

  Amos,

  I agree with most of what you said but I don’t agree over you claming Cesc was stitched up by the press. Not true. You can say anything you like about ‘leading questions’ but we have to stop making excuses. I think it is obvious to everyone that Cesc is a winner and has a unique attitude if u compare it to the rest of this squad. eg Hleb.
  Don’t blame the questions for me. Leading or not, Cesc spoke him mind. DaveyB made a valid point. Fact is there is no fear of being dropped at Arsenal. Our team and spiritual leader is a 19 year-old who will definitely be back in Spain within the next 5 years. Young players come to Arsenal to get a game as a stepping-stone. C. Ronaldo at ManYoo had to wait 2 years before he saw regular first-team action at United. We chuck ours straight in. There is no fear of being dropped and no competition for places I’m afraid.

• 131. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:38 pm

  Peter Beardsley?

• 132. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:39 pm

  Gary Lineker?

• 133. Tubes (wanking)  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:41 pm

  i’m not the same person as ron i swear.

  please believe me we are separat lovers.

• 134. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:42 pm

  tubes,

  73,295 v Sunderland 9 March 1935

• 135. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:43 pm

  tubes, can you get away with doing that at work? Lucky bastard!

• 136. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:44 pm

  fuck sake FG, you should be on arsenal mastermind.

• 137. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:44 pm

  Was it Sunderland?

• 138. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:44 pm

  Falklands Gooner

  was i correct about the everton q?

• 139. Amos  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:44 pm

  Dennis if I had claimed that Cesc was stitched up by the press then you would be right to disagree with me and I would have been wrong to say it. But I didn’t say that. If you read the interview though it is clear that the questions were expressing predefined views of the club and its attitudes and inviting a response to those views. There is nothing wrong with that but those reading it should be clued up enough to see when someone is expressing an opinion that is at the forefront of their thinking or merely responding to an opinion expressed by someone else. Understanding that can only help when forming your own views.

  Sometimes we can focus too much on words and not enough on understanding.

• 140. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:45 pm

  In Defence of Ron
  I’m a big fan of Respects/Amos and pretty much anyone who argues their case well on this board but at the same time I do sometimes enjoy the ‘light’ conversations with Ron. He does actually (sometimes)talk about football and does make some good points.

  Even he would acknowledge that he talks crap sometimes as well (don’t we all?) but I think it’s good to have a contrast between some of the heavier posts and his. also, I think part of the reason he does is boredom, you’ll notice that a lot of the time when he’s kinda infantile is when he’s virtually on his own on here. If there are people talking football he’ll contribute.

  I think he goes too far with the little running battles with various people and I obviously don’t agree with his opinions about RH but he’s entitled to his opinion. I know I may very well get shot down for this post but just wanted to say that in my opinion Ron isn’t all bad by any means.

• 141. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:45 pm

  i answered that prick yesterday.

• 142. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:46 pm

  Ron-Sorry, I missed that. No, I was saying that Keown was the last Everton player before Rooney to score for England. (nobody ever guesses that)

• 143. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:46 pm

  FG, bang bang

• 144. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:47 pm

  FG thanks for your kind words

  but was i fucking right or not?

• 145. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:49 pm

  #142 Ron

• 146. Fed Up With RH  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:51 pm

  I love that today there are finally some people who are as pissed off with Respect Highbury as me. the boy obviously adopted profligate as his word of the season. i have never seen one word so overused. he obviously uses a thesorus when writing his comments in a vein attempt to make himself sound more intelligent than he really is. just a few examples of what people think of you big man:

  RH I think much of your analysis has some merit, but your criticism of Adebeyor (as you call him, Akin-B, after Ade Akinbiyi, I presume) is irresponsible.

  respect highbury,
  how long winded and pompous can one so-called gooner be??

  Respect: Please, not many people have time or inclination to read the long winded comments you usually post. This is a comments section. If you want to outline your manifesto for Arsenal football club then get yourself a blog or a publisher.

  Respect, you make some reasonable points but some attacks on the playing staff, or suggestions that they don’t seem to care after losing matches is completley unfair

  *_Respect Highbury ,
  why don’t you write your own blog? - This one was probably ment as a compliment but i feel it could equally be taken as a piss off. this is gilberto’s blog and you are constantly filling up the “comments” section with long winded drivvel. perhaps if you had your own blog then people could choose to read your exceedingly drawn out opinions.

  respect highbury - ever heard of the word ‘concise’? your rants are incredibly long, not to mention dull.

  Respect Highbury… would hate to be stuck in an elevaor with you pal…

  I think what is even funnier is reading your band of merry little arsewipes jump to your defence. just watch after this post how many RH lovers feel it necessary to defend his honour. Boo Yah

• 147. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:55 pm

  fed up with RH,
  i cant belive someone would write such a horrible thing, you’ve completly profligated this blog, and if i ever profligate you, then belive me you’ll know you’ve been profligated.

  profligate day to you sir

• 148. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:56 pm

  so… what exactly does profligate mean??? anyone.

• 149. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:56 pm

  It’s when a fence has safe sex….

• 150. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:57 pm

  Fed Up…Couldn’t you have said all that in a more concise, entertaining and witty manner. In fact I cannot believe how completely profligate you’ve been with your remarks.

  As you were…

• 151. Fed Up With RH  |  May 1st, 2007 at 12:58 pm

  haha. profligate off you RH lovers!

• 152. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:01 pm

  before i get blamed, fed up with RH is not me

  tho he can add me to the list of ppl that dont like him

• 153. Fed Up With RH  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:01 pm

  prof·li·gate (prŏf’lĭ-gĭt, -gāt’)

  adj.
  Given over to dissipation; dissolute.
  Recklessly wasteful; wildly extravagant.

  n.
  A profligate person; a wastrel.

  For those of you who wondered what it meant. it does sum arsenal up to be fair to the guy. its just the overuse that is a little boring

• 154. Dennis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:03 pm

  I will be one of those ‘merry little arse wipes’ and will jump to the defence of RH. Like Falklands says. I am a fan of anybody who can make an arument in a sensible and intelligent manner. No matter how long it is. What i do NOT appreciate is insecure little bedwetter like you. You know. The ones who have nothing to say but can only come on the blog and try and shoot down others (unsuccessfully). Like FG said the other day. If you do not speak then you cannot have a voice. ‘Respects’makes long pong posts yes. But funnily enough, people who care about AFC tend to read them and generally see fit to debate them. It stimulates debate when Amos or RH make their posts. Now let us see what you have done. Hhhhmmm…It seems to me that your obsession with RH could stem from jealousy. If you don’t like his posts then do not read them. What good is it going to do for you quoting the views of randow iditos (who are all obviously the same peron ie Lime Wedges/Tony/prick)? What do you contribute with posts like that? All you do is make yourself seem like a jealous insecure little tit. Oh hols on…

• 155. gazzap  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:04 pm

  If respects had his own blog he’d probably get more visitors than most of the blogs around today. ron you should start a blog too and then see which one of you two is the most popular?

• 156. Fed Up With RH  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:05 pm

  hey ron. i knew i could count on you for some backing. plus its cool that we posted at the same time therefore proving that we are infact different people. i actually do post under a different name but decided to use an alias because there are so many RH lovers out there that I feared i could never post under my real name again! If you can guess who I am i will infact reveal my top secret identity!

• 157. Dennis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:05 pm

  Ron we all know ‘Fed up with RH’ is you. Give it up. Your instant denial is pretty funny as a giveaway though gotta say…

  Amos. This is what you said:

  ‘If you read the interview though it is clear that the questions were expressing predefined views of the club and its attitudes and inviting a response to those views. There is nothing wrong with that but those reading it should be clued up enough to see when someone is expressing an opinion that is at the forefront of their thinking or merely responding to an opinion expressed by someone else’

  Problem is Amos that Cesc actually happens to agree with the views that guy expressed. Cesc admits he wanst to be bollocked now and then. Those were his words. How can you say otherwise?

• 158. Fed Up With RH  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:07 pm

  haha i knew they would come following on behind sooner or later! haha

• 159. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:09 pm

  my instant denial was for dickheads like u

  me & RH have had several arguments, so i knew ppl would think it was me

  why would i use a diff name when everyone knows wot i think of him?

• 160. Bobby P.  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:10 pm

  Well said GazzaP. Problem with wankers like Ron (aka Tubes, aka Fed up with RH) is that they contribute nothing. Zilch. So what do you do ‘Fed upp with RH’? You come on an Arsenal football blog and start this bizarre rant about someone who actually posts quality football comments. Basically you own up to being a total cunt. That’s the point ‘fed up with RH’. Yeah Respects writes long posts. But I (and many others) actually enjoy reading them. Why? Because we care about ARSENAL and care about discussing ARSENAL. Ppl like you nd your million aliases seem to care more about getting some kind of love and acceptance and appreciation. Which is sad really. Totall agree with Dennis too. I find strange rants like that funny. Because it shows an unhealthy obsession with ‘RH’. We do not want to ‘guess your identity’ ‘Fed up with RH’ we already know what you are. ie. an unfunny cunt.

• 161. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pm

  yawn, so its back to this then

• 162. Fed Up With RH  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pm

  haha. i love it. keep em coming Respects little bitches

• 163. Fred  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:14 pm

  Ron you really are an utter utter cock. You need to grow up and crawl out of your mummy’s vagina. Stop sucking so much cock and grow some balls you fag-bag. You are possibly the most boring and unfunny fuck there is. Wow Ron lemme see. Hhhm…I think you’re a cunt..Greg thinks so…RH thinks so…EY thinks so…Bobby thinks so…Alan thinks so…oh but you cannot help yourself. RH is a grumpy old man nothing more. Bu at least his posts are well-written and talk about Arsenal. Unlike you spud cunts who come here on a wind-up like you Ron Atkinson and Tubes the homo.

• 164. Amos  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:15 pm

  Dennis - it’s going to be pretty boring if we turn this into a comprehension exercise and is bound to descend into semantics but…. just for the record…..Cesc doesn’t agree with much of the interviewers questions for example:

  Are Arsenal overconfident? ….Not overconfidence so much as a lack of concentration.
  That sounds like Arsenal are too relaxed. Do you lack edge, desire, or pride?……I’m not saying that we lack that, not at all.
  The image emerging is of a dressing room that accepts defeat…
  If I get something wrong, if I play badly, if I fail, I like people to have a go at me for it. If I get it wrong, I want someone to tell me, to make that clear to me.
  Does no-one do that?……….Yes.
  Because critics say so. There’s a feeling that Arsenal look good but lack balls…I wouldn’t say we lack balls

  The tone of the interview is set by the questions and not by the answers. As I said there is absolutely nothing wrong with the technique - it can invite interesting responses but it is as well to understand what is going on in these things.

• 165. RH forever  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:15 pm

  how dare you make fun of RH. he is amazing with a 24 inch dick and he shoots bolts of lightning from his arse capable of making anyone instantly orgasm. what fuckers you are ron and Fed up!

• 166. Fed Up With RH  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:16 pm

  well there is no need to resort to name calling! haha

• 167. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:17 pm

  Got no probs with people posting jokes, differences of opinion, im not too keen of a lot of Respects stuff, but he’ll have a banter with you and we can agree to disagree, like most people on here. The problems I can see are with those who get fucking angry and spout bile and abuse for no fucking cunting reason and dont have any concept of perspective. I think its good to have a mix of serious debates and shite jokes, that I find funny (shit, shouldnt have said that bit). I also find it a bit fucked up for people to mjust pop up out of nowhere, slagging people off and then disapearing again. I wont name names, wouldnt wanna hurt their delicate feelings.

• 168. Greg  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:17 pm

  Actually Dennis I think you’ll find you are wrong. We all kno Ron is a fat prick but i don’t think it’s Ron. It’s blatantly that LMFAO character that was banned from the site some time ago and now posting under a different name. He was the cunt that made racist comments about blacks and had a crazy obsession with RH. Just ignore the cunt. Oh and ignore Ron too (though we all do that). By the way ‘Fed up with RH’. If you are so ‘fed up’ then do us all a favour? Fuck off to another blog and go bore everyone else there. And take Ron the Con with you

• 169. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:21 pm

  Geekov-Agree with the sentiments of your post.

• 170. yfront man  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:21 pm

  Wow Wow Wow. what is going on here today. I thought when I read the article that Cesc’s interview would have sparked some football chat but instead i come through to the comments section to find you ginny annes throwing around insults again.

  I dont mind ron. when he isnt deliberatly trying to wind people up he can be ok to banter with on here. i also agree that Respects Highbury can be a little long winded but I’ll forgive him for that. at least he talks about football.

  You guys need to stop jumping on the backs of whoever has a different opinion than you do. My word you are all so sensitive. Now how about some football? I love cesc more and more with every game and every interview. If we loose him we are screwed!

• 171. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:24 pm

  so i came in this morning & decided to write some decent stuff, i made one silly joke all day & took part in the questions.

  someone slags of RH & u dimwitts attack me! it wasnt me.

  i think it says a lot about the ppl that are attacking me tho…

• 172. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:24 pm

  booby p,
  sorry just realised bobby p,
  why are you calling me a wanker when i have done fuck all towards you, its been said so many times if you dont like what i write dont fucking read it, its that simple.

• 173. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:24 pm

  Cesc is a fucking legend in the making, but now Ive said that someone is bound to disagree with me, call my mam a whore, say Im a effin Spud and basically completely tear me to pieces with their incivisive biting comments…ooh i cant bear it!

• 174. Dennis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:25 pm

  Geekov, Yfront well said. Seriously I wonder where ppl’s brains are sometimes. I personally am a fan of ‘Respects’ as you know and unashamedly so. Everyone has a difference of opinion. Geekov maybe not so keen..Yfron maybe likes..whatever. Point is, this is a football blog. The worst kind of ppl are the ones who pop on, slag someone off (in a shit way as well) and then run off back to mama.
  Poor form.

• 175. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:27 pm

  i am a cunt with a problem perhaps but at least i am right.

  said it before and say it again there’s not enough british grit and stell in this arsenal team. too many foreigners.

  by the way glad u all figured out it was me slagging RH. course i did it but its cos i have nothing better to do with my sad life.

  i have a shit job and a shit life. sometimes want to end it all.

• 176. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:28 pm

  yeah like fred, made one post all day just to slag ppl off

  i wonder if he was using a diff name…

• 177. yfront man  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:29 pm

  yea totally agree and i really hope people cut ron and tubes some slack. i for one have no problem with them and agree with ron. look back over the days postings and you’ll see that until this fed up character came along there was nothing but banter and then as soon as someone says something someone doesnt like it is automatically Tubes or Ron or (I’m surprised he hasn’t been dragged into this) Gelbs in disguise. wise up

• 178. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:30 pm

  post 175 is all the evidence u need that someone has a problem with me

• 179. yfront man  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:31 pm

  agree with dennis and geekov i mean not the wanker whos just as bad as fed up using someone elses name to post. wanker!

• 180. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:31 pm

  cheers yfronts but you know you’ll now be called gay and other stupid names now because you stuck up for the bad apples…

• 181. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:33 pm

  and even funnier the people calling you gay and shit will also be telling you to grow up.

• 182. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:33 pm

  Cesc is the most important player we have, the fact that he’s only 19 makes me both scared and proud. Proud cos he’s such a mature player for his age and is so consistently high class…and scared cos we surely SHOULD have someone who’s in their prime and is a natural leader as our most important player?
  Also, I think we have to accept that at some stage he might want to play in Spain, as I’ve said before I think that’s fair enough. I just hope it’s not for a long long time!
  Is it just me or was the interviewer most definately not an Arsenal fan??

• 183. yfront man  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:34 pm

  screw it i just want to come on here and chat about arsenal. if everyone has the same opinions then its nothing but a load of ego massaging nonsence. i love a bit of controversy

• 184. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:35 pm

  fred, dennis, bobby p etc

  you are the ppl letting this site down, some prankster shows up, slags RH (just to get a reaction) & u duly oblige

  nice to know u r muppets on the string of a fool

• 185. yfront man  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:37 pm

  yea i know the interviewer did seem a little pushy. but at the same time i think everything that was said was fair enough. i pretty much thought what cesc said was ok. it just really confirmed what i had been thinking

• 186. Fed Up With RH  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:39 pm

  I have to say I have been more than a little dissapointed with how few people have jumped to RH’s defence. perhaps he is less loved than people think

• 187. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:40 pm

  The fact that the dressing room seems to be devoid of anyone getting in the players faces, geeing them up, or tellijg them to pull their socks up, etc. Now that is a bit shit. Too nice? That sounds about right dont it?

• 188. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:40 pm

  i wonder how much of an impact theo will have next season? and how much the injury to his shoulder was holding him back? because based on his first season he didn’t do enough to warrent the price tag that came with him…

  controversial or what!!!

• 189. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:41 pm

  Has anyone seen the picture of the Arsenal away kit yet? Its on Arseblog. its fucking hideous, but thats just my opinion, dont bite me head off will ya’s?

  Its got a bit of the redcurrant on the sleeves and the rest is white, I think. Eeeerrrrrrrggggghhhh!!!

• 190. Fed Up With RH  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:43 pm

  haha. i agree though. at his age i think lennon was showing more potential. the boy needs to learn how to beat his man. he is fast enough so with some guidence i think this season could be a good one for him. still think we need at least 3 players though. plus the hairdryer treatment cant be bought. can you imagine someone we just signed in the summer shouting at everyone in the dressing room. i would just tell him to piss off. i think that it needs to come from within. how about thierry instead of giving a dirty look tells the player what he is thinking?

• 191. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:44 pm

  It’s good to see that Cesc recognises the problems within the team and he clearly isn’t happy with hos the season has gone.
  People have pointed out that Jens is a player who lets people know when they’ve done something wrong BUT
  a) That’s usually only in a defensive sense, not involving the general pattern of play or any attacking options and
  b) Jens seems, to me anyway, as likely as anyone to be guilty of a fuck up that costs us points. I know it’s difficult cos he’s a keeper and they always get stick yadda yadda yadda but still.

  I know we’ve talke about it before but I really think we NEED someone like Gallas to make himself a fixture in the side and to bollock people. We seem to lack someone really vocal, I for one hate it when Thierrys captain and if a player misplaces a pass they get one of those Trademarked Thierry glares. By all means bollock them but at least offer something constructive in return. Gallas seems to have the ego and the balls to actually yell at people, we need that.

• 192. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:45 pm

  yeah geekov i saw it, i dont think its 2 bad, tho the yellow one is better

• 193. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:46 pm

  Fed Up-I haven’t agreed with anything you’ve posted till that last one. Can’t beleive you mentioned the Thierry glare as well!

• 194. yfront man  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:46 pm

  Oh so fed up is going to have an opinion on football now! hahahaha

• 195. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:47 pm

  geekov you cunt i think the new kits gorgeous its just the similarities to the spuds kit that i dont like, i cant belive you just said that you cuntflapdicktwatwanker.

• 196. yfront man  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:47 pm

  can someone send a link to the new shirt cant find it

• 197. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:49 pm

  I cant see it going down too well. The choice of main colour’s a bit of a giveaway why it wont be well received.

  Who will receive it well then?

• 198. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:49 pm

  try this

  http://www.gayporn.com

• 199. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:49 pm

  200

• 200. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:49 pm

  200.

• 201. yfront man  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pm

  i already have that bookmarked! lol

• 202. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pm

  Oh Deary me.

  Work constraints force me to only infrequently scan the blog and what do I see? Sensible discusssion and…yup, the inevitable RH-obsession manifests itself once again.

  Ronald MacDonald we have been through this before. I do not talk about you, or hardly ever address you first. The reasons for that, should be instantly apparent (your unedifying stupidity…your stultifying ‘comedy’) - yet Ron, you show an inability to make a discussion without alluding to my name. Oh dear.

  You know, sad as it makes me that someone of your brilliance, wit and charm does not ‘like me’ (no drinks down at the pub together then Ron? damn); I think I’ll live. Just.
  Despite your frequently bizarre rantings about me, which make you appear some wild sociopath - if you do not like my posts so much, you DO know you possess the option of skipping these. Right? Perhaps they did not teach you to scan/skip literature in Special Needs school but never mind. Sure you’ll get to grips with it someday.

  Actually Ron, I doubt that it was even you posting as ‘Fed up with RH’. Even you, are not such a mooncalf. Enough of that though. Way too boring. I’ll leave Ron to carry on with his refusal to discuss footie and his love of boring slagging.

  GEEKOV: You make sense and I find myself strangely agreeing with you for the…second or third time! No but really. On the whole Akin-B thing allow me to clarify. I actually think that in 2-3 years, Akin-B could become a key player for Arsenal. I like his work-rate, I like his endeavour, I liked his cross for the Fulham goal. Very much. The problem is, Akin-B needs far too many chances to score one goal. And as that continues, it is costing us vital points. Think back to West Ham at home, to PSV at home and PSV away; and these are all matches where vital misses have cost us. I am aware he is there only through happenstance, but anyway…I also agree with what you said about our defence. It is shambolic, to say the very least.

  Our defence cannot keep them out, and this always serves to accentuate on our misses.

  What Cesc said in his interview for me, and what Gallas said in his reveal 2 key things: Wenger does not give them enough of a bollocking, and I think his post-match interviews always highlight this (CSKA at home), Fulham away. Our set-piece defending is in disarray and there is a fear of bruising egos.

  Anyhow, I’ll give the floor back to Master of Ceremonies Ron…

  P.S FALKLANDS: I know what you mean about Cesc. I think I am more fearful of the fact that Cesc is such a vital cog, at the tender age of 19. It will only make his inevitable departure even more difficult to cope with in my opinion. But I am proud he is ours for the time being. Our player of the season by a country mile…

• 203. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:51 pm

  http://forum.football.co.uk/post-329412.html

• 204. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:51 pm

  ah no! tubes! Im far too sensitive to take that abuse!

  cuntyflappsbollockticklingimpsternonce

• 205. Fred  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:52 pm

  There goes that Ron again. Fuck off, you are not funny.
  Homo. I hate homos & racists

• 206. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:55 pm

  RH, it wasnt me. thanks for slagging me tho.

  i’ll leave it at that.

• 207. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:56 pm

  So Fred, you’re a bigot, but not a racist bigot then? I get it now, ta.

• 208. yfront man  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pm

  I dont for a minute believe that its our away kit. there is no way we will be playing in that. its reasonably nice but it isnt an arsenal shirt. I am a graphic designer and that would take 5mins in photoshop

• 209. Blog Head  |  May 1st, 2007 at 1:59 pm

  Fred,

  Do us a favour mate, Lay off the crack

• 210. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:00 pm

  hmmm, where have u been bog face?

  posting as someone else perhaps…

• 211. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:01 pm

  Blog head doesn’t post as anyone else Ron. Or so i’ve been told.

• 212. fed up with ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:03 pm

  is we all as fed up with ron as i? we should try and get GS to ban him. lets start a petition.

• 213. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:04 pm

  RH; not that I’m counting, but I think we’re up to the 5th time we’ve agreed now!

  Of course Ade has missed lots of chances, but he does have a knack of scoring important goals. He will hopefully improve on his finishing (along with the rest of the team), but I feel his misses have been exaggerated by the sloppy, casual, unorganised defense. meaning that we tend to always need to chase the game, or even if ewe do take the lead, we tend to start pissing about getting all casual and acting lie its a training exercise and the inevitable happens. The equalisers for Man City & Fulham in the last home games were so fucking obvious they were gonna occur. They wwere like a King Kong orgasm; You could see em coming a mile off. We relaxed too much start giving the team more possesion and then they get confidence back start believing they can get something and then they score. We have to start again, try and get the tempo and urgency back, but when its gone its really difficult to get it back.

  How comes we have to really work for any goals, when all other teams have to do is aimlessly hoof it and then get gifted an easy opportunity as the defense parts like the Red Sea? FUCKING ANNOYING.

• 214. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:04 pm

  i fucking knew it bog boy

• 215. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:05 pm

  Ron’s alright (ignorant racism aside). Even though he doesn’t like me and doesn’t want to be my friend. :o(

• 216. Blog Head  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:05 pm

  No Ron I’ve been trying to do some work before I get the sack. I still read when I can though but its annoying trying to start conversations because you cant finish them. So what I do now when I get a spare moment is go on one of the other sites like Canon or Goodplayer and write them a short, to the point message. Such as ‘lick my balls’, or ‘Suck my nuts’.

  Enough about me, how are you?

• 217. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pm

  thanks ‘fed up with ron’

  but i dont think GS will listen to you, he knows who is really posting as who

• 218. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pm

  Loving those constructive comments bloggie!
  Did you realise ruralgoon can’t bring herself to post of here since you’ve departed?

• 219. Fred  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pm

  Guys please see that the person posting under my name was not me. Ron you funny fuck you wanna start again? I buried you last time and I’ll bury you again. You prick. I am starting to suspect that Yfrontman is right and that it might be Gelbs causing all this trouble. He has been curiously absent for a couple a days now which is weird. Oh by the way Ron. You’re still a racist little cunt-bucket. Ta.

• 220. gazzap  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:10 pm

  If jens got back what he dished out then after the fulham goal the defenders should have turned round grabbed him by the testicles and while he was screaming ram a javelin down his throat. while he was recovering pour surgical spriit on his wounds, build a bonfire round him and set him alight, and then shortly before he dies, piss on the bonfire and tell him in no uncertain terms to get back on his line. but no instead they all walk away quietly thinking ’stupid twat’. the team needs a few more talkers but fewer nutters.

• 221. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:10 pm

  me? apparently im not funny & a racist, support spurs, am tubes…

• 222. Little Dutch  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:10 pm

  Word. Man’s has been bare busy bruv. I think Cesc does really sum up what is up with the side, but surely these are all things that develop? We do lack a winning mentality, but so did the team of 2000 and 2001 who exhibited many of the same characteristics.

• 223. Greg  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:12 pm

  Ron I hear your sister gives you sloppy hand-jobs. Is it true?

  Geekov: Lol at ‘King Kong’ orgasm.

• 224. Blog Head  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:13 pm

  Mavis,

  Ruralgoon’s cool aint she

• 225. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:16 pm

  Yeah seems like a nice girl… I wonder what she looks like though..? I don’t want my illusions of an attractive female Arsenal supporter shattered, so I’m plumping for a buxom young blonde, rather than ‘ma’ from The Darling Buds of May.

• 226. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:16 pm

  I think all the problems, issues we’ve been on about are sort-out-able! With work on the training ground, new players and the natural development of the younger members of the squad. Well thats what I’ll be telling myself throughout the summer!

• 227. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:20 pm

  when all the so-called intelligent ones were shitting themselves about qualifying for the CL after the newcastle game, i said that we would finish 3rd.

  i also said we would win the league next season…

  fred, greg etc - the ppl who slag me off for not talking bout footy…
  very insightful posts

• 228. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:28 pm

  Im not into all this slaggin each other off,name calling, ya mam’s this you mug, you fuckin cunt, ya muppet, slag cunt you mug (what film’s that from anyway?) Some of the stuff though is making us sound like a bunch of knee jerky, fikkle as fuck Spudz. calling for the manager’s head as soon as we dont win anything. Like we’ve a devine right to. We’ve never had a devine right to win things, well, maybe in the 30’s we did! Look at the teams now, look at the managers and the money shlooshing about? One of the old ‘big sides’ is bound to get it right sooner or later as well. Im talkin bout Newcastle or Man City there. Wouldn’t be surprised if fat Sam went to one of them 2, but thats hardly rocket science, unlike this exact replica of the Appolo 7 space craft I’m working on.

• 229. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:31 pm

  ron, you are indeed the most witty and knowledgeable poster on this blog. You are definitely not a Spud and you and tubes are not the same person as well.

  Take a bow fella.

• 230. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:35 pm

  Will all the ‘fans’ that endorse the booing of our own players be happy to redirect that vitriol towards the man we know as Cuntley on Sunday? Or would that be unfair on the poor misunderstood little judas cock muncher?

• 231. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:40 pm

  Regardless of whether it stops the Chavs winning 3 in a row, I think the main motivation for me would be stopping that cunt having a smug grin on his face after a victory for the Russian playthings. To hear him say after his team (full strength) beat our second string at Cardiff and say; ‘this is why I came to Cheley.’ Utter cunt, utter utter cunt….Could have been a fucking Arsenal legend you wanker, you sad epitome of everything that is wrong with modern day footballers cuntybollockflaptwatflangegussetsackOshit.

• 232. Little Dutch  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:40 pm

  I agree we need a few more talkers, which is why I’m baffled people have such a beef with Gallas. It just proves people will moan about anything given half a chance. They moan about Wenger’s bland interviews when we’ve played badly. But when Gallas comes out and tells a few home truths, they moan that he is overpaid and a whinger. You don’t want 11 Gallas’s, more fatherly figures like Gilberto are needed, but I’d like to see more of our team dish it out a bit. I think Cesc is growing into that sort of player and he will absolutely definitely be our next captain, of that there is no doubt.

• 233. Little Dutch  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:43 pm

  P.S A point I expressed to people around me at the Bodge in December. Can we please not bother booing Cole on Sunday, what’s the point? That bloke is not even remotely worth me emptying my lungs. It would bruise his ego much more if we ignore him. Besides, I saw him given vitriolic stick at a hundred away grounds at Arsenal, and each time he played a blinder. Don’t acknowledge shit, flush it away.

• 234. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:48 pm

  I have to agree with Little Dutch just ignore him as an insignificant piece of shit.We dont want to be bitter like the Sperz when Campbell defected

• 235. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:55 pm

  LD and CNM-Good point on Cashley. Remember when he was talking about listening to the crowd singing Thierrys name after the Wigan game and then waiting for them to start singing his name and they didn’t, and how much it hurt him?
  Maybe a chorus of ‘who the fucking hell are you?’ might be more hurtful to him than the predictable boos. But agreed, lets not be like Spurs after Sol moved.

• 236. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:55 pm

  It’s a fair point, but not everyone will ignore him. If some are silent and the rest are abusing the little mincer, the message that comes across will be one of indifference rather than absolute condemnation.

  Let’s just hope, as Geekov says, the badge kissing cunt doesn’t get the opportunity to celebrate, jumping up and down like a Girls Aloud backing dancer around the Grove at the end.

• 237. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:57 pm

  Whatever happens he won’t be winning the league on our ground, which is something I worried about a few months ago!! Thank christ for that eh?

• 238. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 2:58 pm

  Thanks for reminding me, whoever it was.

  Wenger playing Gilberto at Centre-back IN BIG MATCHES - RETARD.

  Someone please tell me Senderos & Djourou were unfit when he done this..?

• 239. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:01 pm

  I believe Djourou was on the bench for PSV and also Bolton(?). It was a very odd decision. I’m guessing he was trying to bring some experience or a cool head to the defence, but Gilberto’s not experienced as a fucking central defender!

• 240. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:06 pm

  same shit from Wenger. i am really losing it now this guy is nuts and the interview with cesc proves it all. cant believe wot lengths ppl on this blog go to to defend crap. fucking shit. serious man. did u SEE that shit on sunday? rose-tinted fools wanna be all party-ppl cos we beat relegation fulham 3-1. wow fucking hoo. shall we talk about wot a prick lehmann is? shall we tlak about gallas givin it large but being at fault for the goal too? or shall we talk about wenger still down the sweetshop buying them tosser kiddies some more haribo sweets and strawberry sours. fucking balls. wenger never read riot act and the players r not even scared of not performing. thats it. the image the world has of us is a joke club. a club that is happy to finidh 4th every year and play CL without actually ever winning it. fucking sad. ppl all happy cos we came 4th. i laugh when ppl say ‘oh yeah but its’ not bad’ look at the money chelsi have’. fucking tools. if u LOOK at the players we have we have better players than ANY TEAM in the PL apart from chel-scum. yet we lose to shit teams and no competition for places. then u idiots start saying u wanna kiss the players’ ass. if u read that interview with cesc it becomes clearer n clearer that the boy wants OUT. he thinks his boss is clown. no winning mentality, u CANNNOT WIN THINGS WITHOUT A WINNING MENTALITY. same shit different day. wenger will sign no one. all u ppl talking about eto why the fuck would he join these lot? i am not kidding i have rung Afc about 4 times today to ask if they can sort me out with a deckchair for the chel-scum game next weekend so i can do wot the players have been doing since march and chill out i the warm sun. they keep hanging up on me. cunts. won’t even listen to their own fans. pricks. and u’s lot all wanna kiss cesc’ backside. well fuck that. cant u WAKEY WAKEY ROSE-TINTED nits and see the BOY IS OFF!!! its so bleedin obvious. ah yeah,. remember nobody actually plays for our club anymore. our club means nothing. its now called ‘arsene wenger child academy fc’. fucking bollox. no player cares for the shirt. i say drop the lot of these dicks apart from kolo and tr7. and ade-Tool is still a mug. yeah he scored one. nice. but how many did he fucking miss before that eh? nah. lets be all rose-tinted. ‘WE WILL WIN THE LEAGUE NEXT SEASON’. more shit from you ron but no surprise there

• 241. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:07 pm

  lol Kem lving the RETARD FILES. we could bring out a whole fucking dvd on that one….and i’m only talking about this season…

• 242. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:07 pm

  Just checked the records, Djourou was on the bench for the PSV game.

  He’d rather play Gilberto at CB than a fit Djourou, he’d also rather risk Henry’s career than preserve it. Henry stepping on to that pitch was a sorry sight, Wenger more or less put a cripple out there.

  IT BEGS FUCKING BELIEF!

• 243. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:13 pm

  well marcus, good to hear from u again old pal

  lovely weather, innit?

• 244. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:14 pm

  People on here probably hate me, but I dont care. People have there nose soooo far up Wenger’s ass, they’re willing to defend him AT ALL TIMES. Even when he’s been a fucking idiot all season.

  Wenger after CSKA at home, “It was a brilliant performance” or some bullshit like that.

• 245. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:14 pm

  To be fair to Wenger Kem.. He would have been told by the medics that Henry was at least fit enough to be on the bench and TH himself should have said something if he didn’t feel ready. You can’t blame Wenger for that. However, he shouldn’t have brought him on at that point, as we were doing OK without him!

• 246. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:18 pm

  kem u remind me off someone else, someone who slates AW all the time…

  marcus are u the same person?

• 247. Tubes  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:19 pm

  marcus,
  i HARDLY turned into a PARTY person after THE result ON sunday BUT im glad we WON….. tell me did i use the CAPS LOCK button right?

• 248. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:19 pm

  Kem-I echo Mavis’ point that Wenger was obviously told Henry was fit enough to play but also that he was wrong to bring him on when he did and disrupt the team as they were doing ok…

  BUT

  remember when we were playing Sparta away when a half fit Thierry came off the bench and scored two? Hindsight is easy…

• 249. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:20 pm

  Well, either the book needs to be thrown at Wenger or the medical staff. Fuck knows what Thierry was thinking.

  Because in NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM WAS HENRY READY TO PLAY A MATCH OF ANY SORT.

  If you were at the game, you may have seen how much of a sad sight that was, Thierry after two minutes was holding his stomach & groin like someone had fucking shot him! That incident disgraced the whole club.

• 250. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:22 pm

  “That incident disgraced the whole club”

  is this your opinion?

  or a fact?

• 251. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:24 pm

  Me drunk on Friday night…that’s an incident which disgraced the whole club….I’m sorry guys….

• 252. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:25 pm

  Falklands Gooner, I understand your point.

  But for me the Sparta game was a different kettle of fish. If memory serves, he had been fit all that season & was out for about 5 weeks and was nearing fitness when he come on from the bench.

  This season Henry has been a PHYSICAL WRECK ALL SEASON. His body was totally shot after a long season. I understand where your coming from Falklands, but for me, I though it was a disgrace.

• 253. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:25 pm

  Fair points Kem..

• 254. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:27 pm

  That’s my opinion Ron.

  Wenger, the medical staff & Henry, fucking disgrace.

• 255. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:28 pm

  It smacked of desperation. I agree that in that way it was disgracful..

• 256. gazzap  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:29 pm

  beating chelsea to end their 2 year stint as champions will be sweet. and seeing cashley sweating as we chant ‘who are ya?’ will be class. we need a song for Clichy by Sunday, PLEASE!
  hope tonight goes to extra time and pens and then chavs lose.

• 257. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:33 pm

  kem - kettle of fish

  fucking brilliant!!!!!!!!!

• 258. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:33 pm

  Kem u have my support mate. ppl think wenger is god of the earth and shit. bullshit he’s not perfect. look at the fackin league table for that. Ron the weather is nice where i am. do they let u use internet in prison u fag?

• 259. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:36 pm

  I can understand the fact people are fucked off about not doing jack this season. I’ve been pissed off loads but then tried to reason it out; yeah, well, we’re a young team (sound like fucking OLeary now!), we’re missing important players, loads of injuries (thats 2 years now at least with loads of injuries, what the fucks that all about?), we’ve got no dough coz of the move (how much did Hleb, Reyes cost?), we cant compete with Chelsea (well, keeping our experienced players wouldnt be a bad start would it?), etc etc.

  Like I said Ive been fucked off loads more than I or my mates need, but I’ve manged to rationalise things and got things back into perspective.

  But, next season, if the same shit happens, well fuck me I am gonna go fucking rADIO rENTAL AND NO mistaking!! sHIT DAM cAPS!

• 260. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:36 pm

  marcus - “do they let u use internet in prison”

  i dunno mate, ive never been!

  what did u do anyway?

• 261. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:39 pm

  “i am not kidding i have rung Afc about 4 times today to ask if they can sort me out with a deckchair for the chel-scum game next weekend so i can do wot the players have been doing since march and chill out i the warm sun. they keep hanging up on me. cunts. won’t even listen to their own fans. pricks.”

  That cracked me up!!

• 262. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:39 pm

  Arsenal fc = one-man team. manager who does not know tactics and tells team to ‘enjoy yourselves’. lemme ask u a question noone has answered. the real ‘galacticos’ manager vincent del boaque won 1 CL, 2 liga titles (back-to-back i think), a world club cup and a european supercup. Arsene wenger has never and will never be able to even take part in a euro supercup. why? cos he’ll never win CL let alone the Uefa. but its funny i swear cos even though del bosque won all that ppl still slate him and say ‘yeah but he’s a shit tactician. simply tells fiog, ronaldo and zidane to go out and enjoy themselves’. everyone says that about him. now if u look at wenger. he has had campbell, pires, vieira, henry, bergkamp, ljungberg (when he was shit-hot), kolo, cunt, lauren and co and has never even won a CL. never won back-to-back titles and i don’t care wot anyone says. back-to-back titles is the sign of domination and consistancy. wenger has none of these. yeah he went unbeaten. all past glories. won fuck all since paddy4 left so he fucked that one up 2. so tell me. wenger is worse than del bosque then surely? he just sends’ m out to ‘go and enjoy yourselves’. fucking pathetic. and kem is right. playing an injured herny hows wot a small-time club we are. sad shit

• 263. gunner4eva  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:44 pm

  (they keep hanging up on me. cunts. won’t even listen to their own fans. pricks)………….perhaps they dont recognise you as a fan then? wonder why not?

• 264. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:47 pm

  Right, back to the quiz….
  Who missed the penalties in the 1980 Cup Winners Cup Final??

• 265. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:49 pm

  John Craven and Terry Badoo?

• 266. gazzap  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:50 pm

  While we’re in the mood:
  wenger had it all then sold Vieira, Pires and Lauren when they were in their prime. I bet Fergie was laughing his bollocks off. Paddy had one bad season due to similar injury to TH this season and suddenly our talisman is out the door. I dont give a fuck about his flirtation with whoever each summer, fact is he was a bloody good player and we should have been priveleged that he was at our club.
  Pires would have cacked all over Hleb and Rosicky in the scoring charts this season, next season, the one after that and probably the one after that. Sheringham went on til he was 40! dont sell your best players just cos they hit the big 3 0.
  Lauren is now turning in what are quality performances every single week for Pompey after an up and down start (only cos he was injured for a year), but no wenger prefers a couple pf whippersnappers who cant be bothered to run for the team.

  why had wenger turned his back on proven stars who have been there and done it and just need a bit of time to recover from injuries in favour of unknown quantities? If its purely to save wages then why the fuck was our wage bill £80m last season? and yes good young players like cesc would always come through, and would probably be even better for having an example to learn from.

  rant over.

• 267. Little Dutch  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:50 pm

  Gazzap, one I’ve been trying to get going this season, “We all agree, Clichy’s better than Ashley.” It’s the only acknowledgement Cole deserves.

• 268. Little Dutch  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:51 pm

  Rix missed one, don’t know who missed the others.

• 269. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:53 pm

  Brady, his last ever touch as an Arsenal player was missing a penalty in a cup final. Tragic..

• 270. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 3:57 pm

  Someone told me jokingly the other day that they reckon Cole’s marriage is all one big PR stunt, to prove he’s not gay and she’s not racist….

• 271. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:00 pm

  Could have something there FG!

• 272. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:00 pm

  It wouldn’t prove that anyway… She could be giving him one with a strap-on, whilst calling him racist names. That way they’re both happy.

• 273. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:00 pm

  gazzap, I agree mate. If Man Utd didn’t have their over 30’s they wouldn’t of done so well in the league this season.

• 274. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:03 pm

  exactly. the excuses r growing boring.
  excuse 1 ‘we have no dough’. hleb 10mil, tr7 8mil, ade-Tool 8mil
  excuse 2 ‘we have no experience’. wenger lets pires go for fuck all, lauren goes for nowt and paddy v sold. keeps ljungberg on 60k a week.
  excuse 3 ‘we just need to put our chances away’. manager’s fault for shit tactics.

  no i know wot. lets do wot harvey keitel sais in reservoir dogs. ‘lets just start sucking each other’s dicks just yet’.

  gunner4eva u mug. they hung up on me cos they r a bunch of unfunny pricks down at Afc box-office. tossers. bet u live in japan u tosser

• 275. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:03 pm

  Letting Vieira go wouldn’t matter so much if he’d have gotten Edu signed up to a new contract. Now THAT was fucking stupid. Letting 2 senior CM players go in the same season.

• 276. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:04 pm

  Even Bergkamp said AW should sign PV back after the whole match fixing shit in Italy. Nice one Dennis.

• 277. Little Dutch  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:07 pm

  Marcus, missing lots of chances doesn’t suggest shit tactics at all, creating nothing suggests shit tactics. It suggests shit finishing to me. To pick up on an earlier theme from RH, who do people think has been iur player of the season? I think nobody really comes close to Gilberto, Fabregas in second, Clichy in third. But Gilbo by far and away for me.

• 278. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:13 pm

  Agreed LD about Gilberto. I would put Cesc in 2nd, but he ackowledges that he hasn’t had a gret season and only two league goals is a terrible strike rate for someon in a side like Arsenal.
  Not sure about Clichy in third, I rate him and have been pleased with his progress but it’s almost like part of it is we’re so desperate for him to be better than Cole.
  Also LD, I’ve been down that same route about the ‘creating chances’ issue with Marcus, does no good, he wait a few days and puts the same argument up again.

• 279. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:17 pm

  I think it’s interesting when people suggest that Ade isn’t ‘Arsenal class’, but the guy many would put as our player of the season (Gilberto) is one of the least skilful players in the team, isn’t one of the strongest tacklers and doesn’t generally pass the ball more 20 metres if there’s a shorter option on.
  It just goes to illustrate my point that I’d rather have someone who gives his all for the side and isn’t the most technically gifted than a showpony.

• 280. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:18 pm

  It’s not even a point worth arguing is it? It’s obvious that missed chances is down to bad finishing and not bad tactics.
  On the player of the season vote… what about Toure in 3rd (although he has tailed off towards the end), or maybe Rosicky who’s shown he’s a classy player and has adapted well in his first season in England.

• 281. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:20 pm

  LD u are a nutcase. our player of the season has easily been cesc i agree with RH on that one. even though cesc is a little git for wanting 2 piss ooff to spain. but u r fair kop to call giblets in there. i out him in 2nd. the rest of the whole team is fighting for last place as they r all SHIT. i might just have to give last to ur favoutire player LD. Hleb! Lol. where is Gelbs these days? oh and LD. on the finishing thing u cannot tell me the tactics ain’t shit. serious. u r right its shit finishing. but who signed up these shit finishers? just RH said in his post i blame wenger for buying wicked players and then playing them outta position. diaby wtf?!

• 282. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:20 pm

  Rosicky is my tip for player of the year next year. He just needs an injury free year!

• 283. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:22 pm

  Donkey of the season - The Beast
  Mincer of the season - Eboue
  Profligater(!) of the season - Aliadiere

  The Jens Lehmann award for services to mental goalkeeping - Mad Jens (he gets to keep the trophy).

• 284. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:22 pm

  But to play Diaby in his real position we have to drop Cesc or Gilberto, and there’d be outcry if we did that. That’s why he was playing Gilberto at the back.

• 285. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:23 pm

  falkslands anow u r just being harsh. ok. lemme put a good argument about the chances. falklands. if a team continues to create chance, after chamce, after chance, after chance, after chance…etc. and carries on missing chance after chance, time after time, it suggests le Boss ain’t practicing it enough in training. they keep missing chance cos wenger’s tactics mean he’ll stick ade-Tool in the hole..tr7 on left-wing and cesc plays too many games. when he weren’t scoring he shoulda been dropped for denilson. denilson has a better shot and would score loads more if u gave him the same chances as cesc. so yes. its tactics. team selection = tactics. argue with that one now booya.

• 286. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pm

  About half the fucking squad could do with an injury free season! lets forget about buying new players, lets sack the coaching and medical staff and get a whole new lot in.

• 287. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pm

  Mavis-If the trophy wasn’t being awarded to Jens again I wouldn’t want to be the one to tell him, or to try and get it off him…you’d just have to hope he’ll drop it and you could run off with it.

• 288. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:26 pm

  falklands i just answered that. drop cesc and play diaby and tr7 in midfield. or denilson and diaby. or denilson and giblets. or giblets and diaby who are both kinda pv4-giblets. not any of this shit with chopping and chaning. wenger’s tactcis have always been shit. ask any moonaco fan or nancy fan.

• 289. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:30 pm

  Even though he has been out for nearly half a season I would have to put Van Persie in contention.Its Fabregas as my player of the season he has carried the team many times all this at age 19.

• 290. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:31 pm

  I think the tactics things a bit of a red herring. I mean, Wengers took terams to places when we’ve been missing a few players; OT (had one fit striker, out played, thought them, won 1-0, plus a few other times there when we never got beat) away, the Bodge (loads out, should have won the game), Inter away 3 years ago (5-1, Kanu was holding up play like no ones business), Real Madrid away last year; completely outplayed them when they were sposed to annihilate us.

  Sure he has fucked with tactics, but so has every manager (Fergie taking off Ronaldo at the Grove when they were on top!)

  Now the shit finishing thing and the crap defense, that needs looking at for fuck sake, dont it?

• 291. gazzap  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:34 pm

  player of season cesc, then gilberto then clichy. Gilberto is a class defensive midfielder but as I said earlier I wish we didn’t play with a DM. I prefer 2 attack minded CMs who can both pass and score a few as Man U do. I would not drop cesc so it has to be cesc and Diaby. they must learn to play together.
  certainly whenever we play 4-5-1 then Cesc, Gilberto and Diaby in the middle would be the dogs bollox. I have them flanked by RVP and Ros with TH up top.

• 292. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:36 pm

  I dont think the team has looked half as up for it without van Persie. The guys a fucking top talent and hopefully he’ll be injury free next year and put all this shit finishing to bed on his own. He’s my tip for next year.

  he’s got it all, if can work hard, stay fit and away from referees and Prostitiues (alledgedly), he can shoot like a canon and got the silky skills too. The guy can be fucking awesome, in my opinion.

• 293. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:36 pm

  falklands please answer my question. u have gone all silent since i got u on the tactics one now…

• 294. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:37 pm

  Geekov, you say it’s a ’shit defence’, but surely you don’t believe the defenders themselves are shit..? They need some more time to play as a unit and, as has already been suggested, a decent defensive coach.
  As for the shit finishing, this should be resolved by having our two 1st choice strikers playing.

• 295. gazzap  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:38 pm

  well yeah I think Gilberto can play at the back. he only had a few games there and it might take him a while to get totally used to it, but I think he can do it should the situation arise. he had a few panic moments but I reckon they’d be ironed out after a while.

• 296. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:40 pm

  Oookay-I’ve got a few minutes before I go home so this is gonna be quick

  “Cesc should have been dropped when he wasn’t scoring”-He hadn’t scored all season long Marcus! When should we have dropped him? 5 games in? Ten? What about the season Jay Jay Okocha never scored for Bolton? I seem to recall he was still pretty important to them. We all know Cesc isn’t all about goals, he has a bunch of assists to his name and dropping our most important player cos he hasn’t scored seems strange…how’d you know when to play him again for a start? Also, he wasn’t scoring when he was fresh so I don’t think we can blame it all on fatigue.

  While we’re on the subject as well, I also think Denilson could have a great shot on him but it’s speculation at the moment as he hasn’t had all that many chances. How many has he scored though in the games he has played? I know that’s a harsh argument but it’s a fact that Cesc won the top scorer award at the u18s world cup (think it was the U18s) so we know he can do it. It’s just not been his year, and not for lack of trying!!

  Ok, so we’re including training in your definition of ‘tactics’ are we? Interesting! Also, with regards them not practicing finishing I haven’t seen them train so I assume you have regularly? How the hell does Thierry score 200 plus goals if they don’t practice?? Impressive stuff. You say we miss chances cos we play ‘Ade in the hole’, I could argue that ‘we create chances cos we play Ade in the hole’ but I don’t really think it’s true. I don’t think you can blame the whole teams wastefulness on him playing there!

  We’ve missed shitloads of chances and I’m gutted about it, but I don’t think it’s tactics. What I do like though is the fact that you actually argued your case and put some points forward as evidence to back them up, rather than just ranting and insulting anyone who disagreed. Aren’t we all mature?

• 297. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:40 pm

  Yeah, the coaching is shit, thats my point. Either that or the players go out and forget what they been coached. I dont think the players are shit (well, Jens apart and Eboue most of the time), just the seeming lack of cohesion as a unit, defending set pieces etc.

• 298. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:40 pm

  seriously listen to yourselves. vp is quality dont gemme wrong. but am i the only one who remembers the sitters he missed at home to pompy? at home to everton? his rubbish gamw away at sheffield? jesus is this how desperate its got? relying on a 19 year-old midfielder and a 20-sumthing year-old striker who should be slowly blooded in. wot a fucking joke. united rely on proven quality like rooney..chelski on drogba…and we on a kid. AGAIN. and can ppl PLEASE stop using injuries as an excuses? anyone remember when th14 and vp were both playing at home to villa eh? how bout at home to everton when we fucked it? nah? home to newcastle? oh no? away to man city? how about then? away to west ham? oh no. selective memories u all have. so rose-tinted. as if th14 and vp playing would have made any fucking difference. proves my point. the tactics are STILL balls.

• 299. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:41 pm

  Sorry for the delay…was typing and watching the clock…gotta go in a second.

• 300. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:42 pm

  mavis point 294 proves mine. fact is gallas, kolo, eboue and clichy (he’s a bit shit) are all quality individually. as a unit though they are steamy donkey turd. so whose fault could that be then? (’Arsene knows’)…

• 301. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:44 pm

  remember also. when vp was rinsing it 2 seasons ago and got into a groove wot happened? thats right. he went and got himself injured. then this season. he was top scorer i the league and scoring a bucketload and wondergoals n all. and wot happened again? he gpt injured again. that’s why i laugh when rose-tinted jokers go ‘oh if only he stays injury-free’…eeerm he WON’T. and once he’s injured again we’ll hear the same apologist idiots goin ‘oh if only our injuries were better…oh if only vp wasn’t injured we woulda won the quadruple’. u just watch and see. just watch.

• 302. TH14  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:44 pm

  get Gattusso (spell)

• 303. Falklands Gooner  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:46 pm

  Right, that’s me off. Cheers…

• 304. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:46 pm

  flaklands again point 279 is way too narrow-minded. fact is gilberto is allowed to do this. he is a defensive holding midfielder. ade-Tool is a STRIKER. he is supposed to SCORE GOALS. not run around like some joker on acid. ok for gilberto but not for a striker. ever see rooney or wright doing that?

• 305. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:46 pm

  In my opinion, regardless of the shit this season, I think that RvP will be the main attacking threat for the Arse next year. Not baseing it on whats gone before more to do with wanting our players to come good. he’s old enough to be relied on now I reckon anyway.

• 306. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:51 pm

  geekov please read my point 301. vp will injure himself again once he starts rinsing it

• 307. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:52 pm

  The problem with Arsenal’s back four is that apart from Gallas they are not natural defenders or have been converted from other positions.At times they seem more interested in starting an attacking move even when the ball is still in danger.I nearly had a heart attack when I have seen an Arsenal defender casually stroke the ball across his own 6 yard box.One such occasion was the Reading game when Eboue passed it to Gallas when Lita was centimetres away.
  Like i said before Wenger or someone else on the current coaching staff should be able to sort this mess out not someone designated as a defensive coach.Defending is one of the fundamental objectives of football and if any coach worth their salt cant put across basic defending then they cant be classed as a top class coach.

• 308. arsenal  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:54 pm

  actuly marcus i c rooney doin that alot. Dats 1 of da main reasons why hes so highly thought of

• 309. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:54 pm

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mihirbose/2007/04/whats_behind_arsenals_objectio_1.html

  worth a look

• 310. gunzor  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:54 pm

  anyone here who has ever played football themselves and knows a little about the dynamics in a team cant argue with cesc when he calls for someone to start bollocking people. theres actually players out there who are on a high level not because they are naturally talented or gifted, like cesc, but because a) they cant stand loosing, they hate the guts of it and hence b) will go mental at anyone who doesnt display the same commitment. if a teammate of mine showed a sloppy attitude in an important game while i am working my ass off, i would rip their fucking head off. none of the arsenal field players do that.
  kahn and effenberg won the CL for bayern because basically their teammates were scared of their wrath if they’d loose, kahn would make it clear that he had no inhibitions to actually, physically hurt them if they didnt work hard. zidane won the worldcup for france cause he was such a sore looser (ok, he had the talent as well), keane did it for manure, adams, keown and vieira used to do it for arsenal, and so on and so on. every great team has had this player type. neither henry nor gilberto are the types of characters for this task and the rest of team is too young to do it. lehmann also doesnt come into question cause hes far to busy making sure he doesnt commit murder on pitch, he such a psycho. if arsenal get this type of character into the team, they will win everything there is to win. AW needs to adress it, simple as.

• 311. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 4:57 pm

  so we should buy joey barton then?

  check out the bbc sport headline

• 312. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:01 pm

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/6612933.stm

• 313. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:01 pm

  now ron. shock horro you are talking about footie instead of slagging ppl off like a muggins. anyway why the fuk r u talking about barton? who would have that trouble-making prick?

• 314. gunzor  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:02 pm

  hhahaha, shame he didnt do it to lumpalard in england-training

  no i just think that on-pitch there needs to be more authority, someone who makes sure that sloppiness à la hleb/baptista is met with a response.

• 315. frank Dalton  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:05 pm

  i like this guy alot makes me happy

• 316. ron  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:06 pm

  predictions for tonight?

  i say 2-0 liverpool

• 317. Mavis  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:08 pm

  I reckon it’ll be 0-0 up until the last 15 mins, then Liverpool to concede a killer away goal whilst pushing forward for the equaliser.

• 318. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:09 pm

  Marcus, hope you’re well wrong about RvP. Couldn’t fucking deal with anotrher injury ravaged fucking player on the books!

  Ron; I posted something on the BBC blog thing. Dont look like they put it up! cant think why?

• 319. gunzor  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:09 pm

  deffo liverpool to go through, 2-0 or 3-1

• 320. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:12 pm

  Yeah, we should go for that Barton. He’ll give em what for, the fucking scum bag low class cigar in eye poking cunt! Just before their biggest game of the season, what a twat, bet City fans are dead chuffed with him, gimp!

• 321. Blog Head  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pm

  We need to use reverse psychology.

  I think chelsea will thrash them

• 322. gazzap  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:22 pm

  I agree with you Marcus that tactically we are not getting it right. I think the current squad is capable of challenging for the title but not in the current way its being used.

  said it before but hleb, ros, cesc and gilberto will NEVER EVER win the premiership or any other trophy for that matter. almost every quality that you need from a great midfield is missing other than passing. we can pass til the cows come home! so what. wheres the movement in the final third? wheres the ball winner? where are the shots and goals? where are the bollocks? Wheres the pace?

  people criticise our defence but as individual players they are OK (other than occasional individual errors by eboue and Lehmann). the reason we let quite a few in is because we are not a defensive minded team, we are not drilled like Liverpool and Chelsea. the back 4 are left to defend where at the other 2 clubs I just mentioned all 11 players MUST defend as a unit or they’re out of the team. I dont want that style anyway, its boring to watch and chelsea can keep it.
  up front we are OK with a fit TH in the side. he will score 30+ goals and Ade and RVP will chip in with a dozen. thats fine. I am telling you its midfield where we are below par.
  wenger needs to let go of his beliefs a little bit and try some new things out. he is so bloody stubborn.

• 323. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 5:41 pm

  Nice to know I am always in people’s minds when I don’t post. Better to be spoken about then not at all. As for Fred, what a retard for saying “I bet it’s Gelbs causing all this trouble.” I never bothered reading the posts but I guess someone rightly speaking their mind about Arsenal’s problems and thinking it is me. I am not that sad to make up alias just to backup myself. Prick.

• 324. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 6:41 pm

  gazzup; the midfield is good enough in my opinion, apart from Hleb, who seems th slow things down (maybe thats down to a lack of confidence and maybe he’ll get it right. Not holding my breath on that one) As for not having the whole team defend, thats what all good teams do or should be doing, if you wanna win things. Even Hleb was tracking back the other day and getting tackles in. Its that old chestynut, defend from the front. You can do that and STILL be attack minded mate.

• 325. Bernard Manning  |  May 1st, 2007 at 8:42 pm

  I was gonna tell a joke, but listening to Clive ‘fucking’ Tydlesly & David ‘fucking’ Pleat, well, I cant compete with those two fooking clowns! They are hilarious!

  “We have 2 big strikers on show tonight, both very different but both equally dangerous.” Who they talking about? Drogba; yeah fair enough, who’se the other one? Only that fucking beanpole twat with the look of an epliletic stick insect, yep, it’s Peter ‘fucking’ Crouch.

  Oh, and what a fookin great example of a brilliant match, wait a minute, whats that? Hoooooooofffff!!!! Oh its one of the scousers crosses landin in me yard!

  Im here all week!

  AND YES, i DO KNOW THAT I’M AS BITTER AS FOOK, BUT THEN AGAIN, I’M A FOOKIN BITTER BLUE ME.

• 326. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:37 pm

  You think it’s unfair and away goals shouldn’t count aet and only on agg? For example, Liverpool and Chelsea both won 1-0 over 90 mins and it is level and equal. Liverpool have to go a full 90 without conceding or they are pretty much out. Whereas if the away goal didn’t count after aet and Chelsea scored, Liverpool should only need to win 2-1 as opposed to 3-1? Seems unfair.

• 327. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:40 pm

  Do away goals count double in extra-time?

• 328. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:56 pm

  Yes.

• 329. ey  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:57 pm

  the away goals rule is still in force in extra-time.

• 330. Bernard Manning  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:57 pm

  Crouch? Anyone bin watching that donkey? Turns into players ALL the fookin time, not once, or twice, but every single fookin time! What is he trying to do? Who does he think he is? I know he’s thin but he aint fookin thin enuff to get trhu 3 Chav players!

  We got Fat Lampard on one side & skinny Lamppost on the fookin other

• 331. ey  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:57 pm

  What. A. Cuntfest.

• 332. ey  |  May 1st, 2007 at 9:58 pm

  Hub cap steelers are doomed as they are down to 10 men…they just put Bell-end on for Crouch.

• 333. Bernard Manning  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:19 pm

  Wonder how Ashley feels he’s developed as a player since joining the Chavs? Gets the ball, then fookin hoofs it, all the fookin time.

  So thats why that donkey Bolo Zenden was on the pitch, to score a penalty.

• 334. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:22 pm

  ey; Cuntfest is right mate. We’re back on for the Cunts Convention!

• 335. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:22 pm

  Bye bye CHELSKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• 336. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:23 pm

  Come to the Emirates and lose the title too.

• 337. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:24 pm

  Take that you fucking Cuntley Cunt. Up the cash your arse you twat.

• 338. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:25 pm

  Bye bye Jose, that was rather ordinary than special.

• 339. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:27 pm

  So cashley, thats why you went to Chavski. To get to the semis of the Champions League and to win the carling Cup?

• 340. marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pm

  Just had to type this, after having finished watching the penalty shootout just now (I’m the marcus who doesn’t need the valium, the one who mostly lurks):

  PEPE REINA IS F***ING GOD!!!!!!

• 341. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:32 pm

  Same scenario as us. Liverpool lost away 1-0 and won 1-0 home. A full 120 mins without conceding an away goal against quality like Chelsea. Benitez 2 CL Finals in 2 years and an FA Cup. Wenger 1 solitary CL Final appearance in 11 years and lost same scenario against the mighty PSV lol. Speaks volumes.

  P.S. Reina coming off his line for pens? That allowed?

• 342. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:34 pm

  However I begrudge Liverpool the final participation too. We should be there…

• 343. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:36 pm

  I seriously believe that Liverpool will mount a serious title challenge next season as well. Their midfield is strong and quality and they will strengthen. Who had the last laugh too? We knocked them out of both cups inside a week and all in vain. Liverpool on the verge of another glorious night in Europe. No wonder they have the best fans lol. And then you get cunts like Ljungberg (like last season how strong and determined they are) and Lehmann now saying we can or will win it next year. Talks cheap. Same old bullshit. If we did win something next season it be inspite of those liabiliy cunts. Seeing other teams be successful just puts everything into perspective. Hardly a pessimist. Ferguson, Benitez and Mourinho all over taken Wenger. Fact.

• 344. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:40 pm

  Liverpool-Milan must be the final.

• 345. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:44 pm

  Gelbs, I know you’d be happy for your team to play like Liverpool do, but I fucking wouldn’t. Don’t give a shit, they are a horrible team to watch and play against as well I suppose. Yep, he’s definitely a Cup manager isn’t he? Gotta give him that. But fuck me that was horrible. i feel dirty now!

• 346. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:44 pm

  Not that I have seen him play. But Muamba suppose to be a good player. British though. Well, more African and he is tall. Why are we contemplating selling him?! We lack height in midfield and we should keep him. Why sell someone that is British and probably keep shite like Song? Well, according to Wenger, Song is an exceptional talent lol.

• 347. jose mourinho  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:45 pm

  We woz robbed….

• 348. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pm

  Liverpool under Benitez are a typical cup team but they have never shown the consistency over 38 premier league games that is required to fight for the title.

• 349. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pm

  Chelsea be back with a bang next season anyway. Probably sign Eto’o in the summer and Villa. Least they’ll learn and grow from their fuckups. Unlike a certain Monsieur.

• 350. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:47 pm

  ha ha after spending all those millions woudlnt it be funny if the special one wins as much as Luton Town in 1988

• 351. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:48 pm

  True Dave. Unfortunately, Arsenal are no longer neither. A cup team nor a title winning team. Just a side that is happy to participate in the CL every season without winning it and quoting Wenger “Sometimes you have to give success to someone else.”

• 352. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:51 pm

  gelbs, I been boring the fuck out of everyone going on about Muamba, will be fucked off he gets sold without seeing how he copes in the Prem. But he ain’t gone yet.

• 353. Pope arsenio Gooniectus III  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:56 pm

  I hereby state that under no circumstances can the person calling them selves gelbs henceforth be referred to as a Gooner, Gunner, Arsenal fan. He is forewith Excommunicated.

  That is all.

  Ps; We are still unconvinced as to his true AFC leanings and feel that he in fact is what is known as a Hideous Cuntius Spudikuss.

• 354. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 10:57 pm

  I can’t say Muamba is fantastic as like I said, I haven’t seem him play and going on hear’say. But we need someone British coming through the ranks with drive and passion and strength. Just as Parlour did. Guess Muamba isn’t really British though. African lol. But even so. And he prolly do well for Brum in the PL next season.

• 355. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:01 pm

  Lampard didn’t want to take the penalty originally. Just shook his head when Mourinho asked him. What a coward he is.

• 356. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:03 pm

  I swear it was Robben who bottled the penalty, when Mourinho asked Robben he just shrugged his shoulders.

• 357. Dave  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:04 pm

  And where was their glorious captain John Terry during the shootout? Even if he is a defender, he should take the responsibility and take one, or head it in, lol.

• 358. Geekov  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:04 pm

  Dunno why he cant be given a new deal, kept at Brum for another year on loan, so Wenger can see how he gets on. He’s the England U19’s captain, so he must be English!

• 359. Gelbs  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:13 pm

  Muamba is from Republic of Congo or something. Don’t think that’s in England.

  As for the fans that think I am not an Arse supporter for daring to moan and slate the team etc. I could be like a Brum fan. Throwing bottles at the team coach and burning my shirt after losing over Easter. Only to see 3 weeks later they got promoted lol.
  If it were me though, I’d prolly sling cans of Mr. Patel’s value beer at the coach along with cans of Fanta and a 4 pack of curly-wurlys along with a packet of lolly-pops.

• 360. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pm

  Rafa benitez = 3 years only at Liverpool. 1 Fa cup. 2 CL finals. 1 CL trohpy.

  arsene european clown wenger = 10 years to build his own dynasty. 1 single CL final and jack shit for the past 3 years. i laugh when i see ppl saying that they ‘oh l’pool are a cup team’. yeah maybe. but that sure as fuck beats being a nothing team like afc are. benitez relly tactically shows that clown wenger in europe. wenger is nothing in europe and he is definitely light years behind maureen, benitez and fergie. he is 4th at best. sad

  wenger reminds me of some 26 yr-old lad who’s been going holidays to benidorm for the past 10 years trying desperately to pull the same fit bird. he’s crashed and burned for 10 years and has never learnt from his sloppy amatuer shit mistakes. then one day some less good-looking geezer turns up and then on his first day, manages to shag the girl the 26 year-old’s been trying to score for 10 years. and to make things worse not only does he shag her one time…2 years later he shages her even fitter mate again. while the other geezer is still looking like a lost joker havin a wank.

  face facts. wenger will never win us fuck all in europe. john legend (jermaine pennant) must be having the last laugh on clown wenger. at least he can provide width. instead we got shit pleb there. its funny cos wot Gazzap said is true. that midfield will NEVER win u the PL. but fuck it. wenger never reads the riot act. those cunts miss 250 open goals an then he comes out on telly praising the kiddies. buys them king-size haribo strawberry sours and peachy fuzz. pop open the vintage cola-pop 1972. fucking clown. its nights like these that really show him up as an amateur in europe. fucking useless. benitez will get 2 CL trophies. and i remember how everyone was laughing at l’pool. who got the last laugh? then rose-tinted fool keep going ‘oh injuries’…fucking jokers. remember. even with injuries or wot not benitez won the CL with baros and smicer…cisse and hamann and dudek in goal. plum wenger

• 361. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:41 pm

  look at the loser mentality we got going at this shi-hole club.

  ‘winning is not everything’

  ‘you have to leave success to someone else’

  ‘i am pleased and encourage by what i saw’ (after CSKA)

  RETARD!

  time for me to spend my day off pestering Afc box-office tomorrow day. they already refused me a deck-chair. i’m gunner ask if they can put on some palm trees and sand down at the emirates now. play a little reggae and sort us out with some spliffs for next season. be really fitting n all. its one big fucking joke holiday down at the arse these days might as well make it fun for the fans.

• 362. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:42 pm

  stick a fucking sweetshop with 2p sweets outside so cesc and clichy can get a refill at half-time n all. mugs. if wenger had any sense he would stick some fruit pastelles and fruitellas on the goal-line. those fuckers would be so desperate to get the fruity sweets they might actually end up scoring.

• 363. ey  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pm

  Gelbs, Muamba is a naturalized citizen, and he captained one of the age group teams for England.

  Meeelan, please save the CL…

• 364. ey  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:46 pm

  Oh, and marcus, stop being a cunt, not good for your health.

• 365. Kem  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:58 pm

  “buys them king-size haribo strawberry sours and peachy fuzz. pop open the vintage cola-pop 1972.”

  LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

• 366. Marcus  |  May 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pm

  Steven Gerrard:
  “The atmosphere helped, the managers’ tactics, everything was spot on. But we crossed the line and we stuck together.”

  our manager’s tactics are fucking toilet in europe.

  “We have the best goalkeeper in the world.”

  we have the biggest fucking old clown. oh and the other clown wenger has just given hiim a new one-year deal.

  clown lehmann:

  “We are among the teams who can win it along with the other English teams. Barcelona, Real Madrid might be stronger next year, AC Milan we have to see and Inter Milan are a good prospect as well. I think they are the teams who can actually win it.”

  yeah bla bla bla…yadder yadder yadder…so fed up of hearing these cunts blabbing shit. is that a bit like this season? u know when we were supposed to ‘come back stroner’ in the CL? they should shut the fuck up from now on. they r a team of also-rans. a load of losers. no winning mentality.

  “We had confidence because we had players who practice in every training session - they like to do it,” he told ITV.

  benitez teaches his players every area of tactics. prick pabtista cant even take a fucking pen. we would have defs lost a pen shoot-out.

  clown wenger. players are a bunch of cunts to me.

• 367. ey  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:09 am

  marcus, there were 18 cloggers out there on display. There were no tactics…it was Hoof it up to Crouch…hoof it up to Drogba.

  What a cunt you are…

  PS, Jens saved the penalty of the Argies and Riquelme’s in the CL. Fuck. off.

• 368. ey  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:16 am

  Oh, and all of you who laud Jose as a great manager - he still hasn’t gotten 300 million worth of players to a CL final. Arsene did - with a makeshift back 4.

• 369. disco dave  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:19 am

  Gazzap post 36 - Great point about us being too defensive with Gilberto in the side but I can’t let your comment that both ManUre’s centre mids can tackle: PAUL SCHOLES CANNOT TACKLEHE CAN ONLY FOUL

• 370. Space Moose  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 am

  ‘Rafa benitez = 3 years only at Liverpool. 1 Fa cup. 2 CL finals. 1 CL trohpy.

  arsene european clown wenger = 10 years to build his own dynasty. 1 single CL final and jack shit for the past 3 years’

  Excuse me? Have you looked at Arsene’s record? 1st or 2nd every year apart from this season and last, when we reach the CL final, a record unbeaten run of premiership matches, unearthing talents like Henry and Vieira AND 3 FA cups to boot.

  What the fuck has Rafa Benitez done to compare with that?

• 371. Alan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:35 am

  Gonna go with Marcus on this one Space Moose. I think it is ridiuclous to ask what Benitez has done compared to Wenger. Simple really: 2 CL finals. 1 CL trophy. The biggest trophy you can win. I think this is all part of the problem at Arsenal. Ppl will just blindly say ‘Wenger is God’. He Has been But far as I am concerned you need to prove yourself every year, with trophies. I think it’s pathetic when fans try and say ‘oh the were 20 cloggers out there tonight’. So what? You heard even Gallas and Cesc have said they would prefer to do that if it won trophies. Where has our pretty ineffective footie got us over the last 3 years? Do you not realize that what counts are trophies? Why are Liverpool a bigger club than us? Trophies. I don’t care that they hoofed it or not. Wenger has never beaten Mourinho and Benitez has. End of.
  So its pathetic to keep talking abut our ‘great football’ (when United play better anyway).

  And Marcu yeah is a bit of bastyard. BUT at least he is a funny bastard. I can appreciate funny comments like ‘vintage cola-pop and peach fuzz’. brilliant. I do not like unfunny shite comments (ahem, Ron)

• 372. Kem  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:03 am

  Agree with Alan. People who say “Wenger is god” do my fucking nut in!

  Wenger has done some good things, I cant deny that.

  But after 11 years he’s failed to win a Champions League (dont talk shit about “we got to the final”), he’s also failed on three ocassions to win back to back titles, these are THE trophies.

  Until he wins BACK TO BACK titles & wins a Champs League, he’s just a good manager. So stop talking this shit about “Wenger Is God” & “Arsene Knows”, because when it comes to the fucking crunch he clearly doesn’t know.

• 373. Space Moose  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:15 am

  Hrrrm, Alan, I would still have to disagree. The CL may be the ‘ultimate prize’, but I still don’t think you can say Rafa is the better manager. Perhaps the ‘form’ manager, if there is such a thing?

  Admittedly we have struggled in the last 2 seasons (we still won the damn FA Cup the year before last though), but if you compare our last 2 seasons:

  04-05

  Arsenal 2nd in the league, knocked out of the CL early, won the FA Cup
  Liverpool:5th in the league, knocked out in round 3 of the FA Cup, won the CL

  Last season:

  Liverpool: 3rd in the league, knocked out of the CL early, won the FA Cup)
  Arsenal: 4th in the league, reached the CL final and lost by a goal, knocked out in the 4th round of the FA Cup

  This season:

  Liverpool: 3rd in the league, round 3 of the FA cup, made the CL final
  Arsenal: 4th in the league, round 5 of the FA cup, CL quarters

  There’s not a whole lot in it until this year. I think it’s a bit premature to be hailing Rafa as the Grand Messiah of Awesomeland and looking to palm Wenger off to the nearest hobo street team, especially given Wenger’s record up until now.

• 374. Space Moose  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:20 am

  I should add - Wenger definitely isn’t ‘God’. He’s a top manager, no doubt (hence the interest from Madrid et al), but he’s definitely fallible.

  But so are Benitez, Mourinho, and that Grand Cunt Sir Alex. The only manager among them who’s won the CL AND back to back titles is the GC.

• 375. doc  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 2:46 am

  so if rafa is so tactically brilliant how is it that we beat them three times this season. and how come he has yet to even mount a serious challenge for the title.what more liverpool could still end up fourth with no cl title.

• 376. Invincible Wall  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:31 am

  http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30276

• 377. Space Moose  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:46 am

  lol

• 378. real fan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 6:26 am

  Marcus, Gelbs, Kem, Alan are Just a bunch of wankers. Fuck off and support, - SUPPORT being the operative word - some other club. We don’t need negative cunts like you. Tossers

• 379. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 6:49 am

  If your married for alot of years and had happiness etc and one day your wife was fucking someone else despite many years of bliss prior, you just gonna “support” her anyway?

• 380. real fan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 am

  So you think that by slagging off all and sundry is going to make things better? Just examine what Wenger has done for our club (not yours) over the ten years that he has been there. League titles, FA cups and two euro finals, without spending shit loads of money. Now that things are not as rosy as they have been , all the likes of you just get all negative and call for AWs head. Who’s going to replace him at this moment in time if you get your way? Fat Sam?
  Oh, - and learn how to write English thicko.

• 381. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:02 am

  Learn to write English? What the fuck you on about?

• 382. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:19 am

  Wenger saying United can lose the title if they lose tonight. Cock. Not everyone is like Arsenal Arsene where you blow the lot inside a week or March. Though perhaps you could argue Chelsea have done just that.

• 383. real fan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:25 am

  where you blow the lot inside a week or March?
  Your = You’re

• 384. Tubes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:39 am

  i dont necessarily think arsene wenger is god, and i admit he does have flaws - his stubborness and his tactical awareness are probably the big two but what the people who are calling for his head and shit dont realise is that wenger is still the best of what is available, i’d rather stick with him knowing that he’s been there and won the prem, he’s won the f.a cup, and he still can win us the CL, remember it took that red face scotch bloke longer than ten years before man u won it. Now dont get me wrong if there was a manager in spain or italy and he was winning everything - the league, the CL and the domestic cups then i might think “ok wengers done his bit let someone else have a go” but there’s no way i’d say that now as there is fuck all else about thats worth having or who we could get and plus say we do change managers who’s to say we wont lose half our players and end up a mid table team, it could happen…

  hows that for a long and thought out post, take that respects!!!

• 385. Tubes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:40 am

  the above post looked longer when i was writing it.

• 386. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:21 am

  I am a LEGEND

• 387. Geekov  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:21 am

  The top prize to win, in my opinion is the League. Thats it, the Chapions League is a Cup competition, a fucking big one, but still a cup competition. The main one to win is STILL the league. In Spain & Italy that is the main prize to go for. Del Bosque, who managerd Real won the champs league, but coz he didn’t win the Spanish League, he was sacked! (I know, its a bit fucked up that!) Ask Fergie, he wants the League.

  Arsenal may not win the league next year, but thats where their fucking priorities oughta lie.

  The fact that a team can finish 4th and still win the fucking thing has taken a lot of the prestihge off for a lot of people, although, not to many on here it seems.

  Well done to Benitez, anyway, for knocking out the Chavs and dear Ol Cuntley, ahh, bless.

  Oh yeah, morning!

• 388. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:29 am

  I hate Ashley cole

• 389. Geekov  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:32 am

  Did anyone actually enjoy the football on display last night?

  I thought it was fucking dreadful. But obviously, thats how to get to a Champs League Final innit?

  Good to see ol Cashley has developed as a player; gets the ball, hoofs it, gets the ball hoofs it in a slightly different angle…etc…

• 390. NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:43 am

  Anyone who’d rather have Benitiez than Wenger, well, its simple. Go fucking support the hoof merchant twats! Without Gerard, they are STILL a load of work horses. People saying that Adebayors shit coz all he does is work hard! Thats what the Scousers are built on; fucking harassing, working, running around…oh and hoofing the ball as soon as they get it.

  Bet it was a fantastic advert for the Premier League. Im sure Barca & Real will be adopting those tactics next season won’t they?

  Yeah, course they will.

  Benitez IS a Spanish Houllier, but he’ll win the league next year now wont he?

• 391. SPANISH NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:50 am

  Yes, Benitez will win the league next year, Wenger is a french gay.

  Wenger is an incompetent manager who happens to be a gay.

  Adebeyor is your best striker and he is a gay.

  David Dein was sacked for being straight.

  Bergkamp is dutch and in amsterdam they love the gays.

• 392. NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:52 am

  So, must be a pretty slow news day in Spain, if thats all they can come up with, how dull.

• 393. SPANISH NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:04 am

  This just in -

  Wenger asks Rafa for coaching lessons.

  Reports this morning suggest Arsene Wenger has asked rafa benitez for coaching lessons. He said “I muz get zum help wiz my coaching. Ezz not godd ve cannot vin shit. I vill return ze favour to rafa by teaching him how to be ze best gay in spain”

• 394. ITALIAN NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:11 am

  Mr Wenger we would like to invite you onto our gazzette for you to explain why you are a gay and why you cannot make Arsenal good for longer then one season. Can we please do the gay interview first as it is more important. There is also a rumour that William Gallas is signing for AC Milan this summer. He is quoted in a british paper as saying “I want to win something, and I aint a gay”

• 395. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:15 am

  FUCK U News reporters and ur gay heads. But true AW is s shit coach

• 396. ITALIAN NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:17 am

  This just in -

  Fabz eats assholes

• 397. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 am

  I am spanish u italian dogs and i know very little about italians BUT the only thing about them i never forget is that - they fuck dogs!

  Keep reporting, woof woof

• 398. SPANISH NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 am

  We fuck bulls, we sit om the horns and then we say, oooooooohhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• 399. real NEWS courtesy of fabz networks  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 am

  RANIERI FEARS FOR MOURINHO’ FUTURE:

  Former Chelsea manager Claudio Ranieri fears for Jose Mourinho’s future at Stamford Bridge if the Portuguese cannot add to the Carling Cup this season.

  Chelsea look set to lose out to Manchester United and relinquish their crown this season, leaving an FA Cup final against Sir Alex Ferguson’s side as the last chance to add to the league cup win.

  Ranieri told BBC Radio Five Live: ‘(Owner Roman) Abramovich wants to win the Champions League. He wants Chelsea at the top of the world. Jose Mourinho is working very well but I don’t know what could happen

• 400. Tubes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:28 am

  400? i think so!

• 401. real NEWS courtesy of fabz networks  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 am

  VIEIRA PREDICTS BRIGHT FUTURE FOR ARSENAL:

  Former Arsenal captain Patrick Vieira believes the club’s future is assured despite the shock departure of David Dein.

  The 30-year-old - while believing manager’s Arsene Wenger’s long-term future is under question because of Dein’s exit - feels the Gunners’ future is healthy because of the wealth of young talent although he rules out a return to the Premiership

  Speaking at a Ford ‘Feel Football’ event in Milan, Vieira said: ‘I don’t see myself going back to England. I am getting old! I am happy where I am and I will stay here for the end of my career.

  ‘But as a club, Arsenal are developing good young players and I feel the future is very, very bright for them.’

  ‘I believe you need more than one man to make a club, but Mr Dein and Mr Wenger were making all the decisions and one of them is not there any more so you can ask a few questions about the future of the club, and Mr Wenger’s long-term future, certainly,’ Vieira added.

  ‘They started together and they have been together a long time and I can’t see Arsene finishing the job by himself.

• 402. Tubes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 am

  stop publishing news stories that newsnow.com have already published

• 403. SPANISH NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 am

  Ranieri talks out of his ass -

  He also said this - “David Dein is Mr Arsenal, without him they will only finish fourth and be pony in the champions league. Without him they may fall into the path of the gay”

  Where’s this tinkering stinkering son of a bitch been for the past three years?

• 404. NEWSNOW  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:36 am

  Stop stealing our shit mother fuckers

• 405. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:38 am

  Tubes u r a big black dick

• 406. Pat Viera  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:40 am

  I would like to go on record and let you arsenal fans know that I really miss you. I miss running into the crowd when I scored and having you rub my penis and finger my bumhole with the ref standing right there. It was so worth a yellow card.

• 407. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:42 am

  lmfao PV

• 408. NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 am

  I hate NEWS, i like sex

• 409. Pat Viera  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 am

  fabz you deserve my dick in your ass, then in your mouth, and then back to your ass

• 410. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:49 am

  then who will score goals for AFC if u paralyse me?

• 411. Tubes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 am

  fabz,
  i know you are, you said you are so what am i?

• 412. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:55 am

  i said i am what?

• 413. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 am

  Web Definition:

  Tube:- A hollow cylinder, especially one that conveys substances from the vagina to the uterus

• 414. Tubes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 am

  fabz,
  post 405

• 415. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 am

  it means nothing @ all

• 416. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 am

  i will buy u a joint and a tot so u can forget abt it.

• 417. Tubes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 am

  i cant belive this, all i wanna do is talk about football and some delinquent starts calling me names. grow up will you and start behaving like an adult or log on to http://www.tinytots.com if you wanna keep acting like a child.

• 418. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:11 am

  ok

• 419. Mos  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:21 am

  am i glad to know that Ashley cole won tbe winning the CL this year!

• 420. Mos  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:32 am

  are chelsea going to implode like Leeds Utd?

• 421. Tubes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:51 am

  ive had an idea…
  why dont the people at arsenal pay a song writer £1 million and get him / her to write a football anthem between now and next season to rival ‘you’ll never walk alone’ then once thats done they can print 60,000 copy’s of it and leave them on the individual seats around the stadium for every home game for the whole of next season, coz i dont care what anyone says but seeing anfield last night gave me goose bumps and i hate the cunts.

  thats such a good idea im gonna post it on all the arsenal blogs in the hope that someone passes it on to arsenal f.c

• 422. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 am

  Martin Jol’s blue and white army !!!!!!!!

• 423. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:09 am

  Hey Bloggie,
  How’s it going? The boss still watching you like a hawk?

• 424. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:09 am

  Tubes,

  How about YMCA by the village people.

  The first line would be perfect -

  Young men, theres no need to be down……..

• 425. Tubes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:10 am

  very witty blog head - why dont you post that on all the other sites i just posted on!!

• 426. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:13 am

  Tubes-I think the problem is with our fans, not with the fact we don’t have a song like ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’. I was the same watching it last night, the game itself was a crap advert for British football but it was still a great spectacle.
  Also, at the inal whistle was I the only one going to the TV “Please show a close up of Ashley Cole’s face…Please show a close up of Ashley Cole’s face..”
  Let’s hope we can help kill their season at the Emirates.

• 427. *_Respect Highbury  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 am

  Top post 384 Tubes! Ha ha…

  On the whole Champs League thing…it’s a tricky one. I actually agree with all that you said Tubes. Wenger is the best of what is currently available. There is no one better, and available out there. ‘Arsenal fan’ I think it’s a little harsh to tell Kem, Gelbs and Alan to ‘fuck off’ and support another team. As far as I could see, Alan was merely stating that Wenger is not as developed in Europe as Wenger is. And frankly, I think nobody could disagree that when it comes to Europe, Rafa Benitez can now be considered streets ahead of Wenger.

  Benitez, in Europe at least, is tactically far more street-wise and savvy than Wenger and his record is pretty much unassailable: back-to-back European trophies, 1 Champs League win and now, another Champs League final. All in the space of 4 seasons - the equivalent of a European final every season since Valencia (bar the one time they got stunned by Benfica)

  On Mourinho though…£300 million blood money and he still cannot, and probably never will (p45 on the ready);

  a) Win a Double
  b) Buy his way into a Champs League final
  c) Go a season unbeaten

  I know who the better manager is there though, mind…

  The way both teams played the game last night was truly ghastly; however the important thing, as Alan rightly said, is winning trophies. Trophies, and lots of them, are what separate the Arsenals and the ManUre’s from the Wolves and the Spuds…

• 428. toobes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 am

  hoi Tubes
  Can we pay 50Cent to wroite us a tune?

• 429. toobes  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 am

  do u guys know ashley cole is really a fag?
  am a hairdresser and i once worked @ the salon where he gets his cut. there’s things about his behaviour that are so “girly”. u have to be around him to understand what am saying

• 430. Alan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 pm

  See ppl are still talking the same shit which only proves my point about Arsenal having a loser mentality. I agree with whoever said that Arsenal is a ‘one-season’ team. I rate Wenger but let’s face it. Arsenal are built to win one trophy every so often and then they fade back into the happiness of coming 2nd (oh sorry these days its 4th). The proof is there are no BACK-TO-BACK titles. Also i’m getting a little fed up with the loser mentality i am seeing here. Example. Geekov said:

  “in Spain & Italy that is the main prize to go for. Del Bosque, who managerd Real won the champs league, but coz he didn’t win the Spanish League, he was sacked! (I know, its a bit fucked up that!) Ask Fergie, he wants the League.”

  NOT TRUE. Del Bosque was sacked precisely cuz that very season they WON the Liga but they got knocked out of the CL by Juve. That’s why he got sacked.

  Then NEWS said:

  ‘Thats what the Scousers are built on; fucking harassing, working, running around…oh and hoofing the ball as soon as they get it.’

  So you are slating a team who has 1 CL under Rafa and is in another final? Aha it’s the classic Arsenal loser-mentality thing of ripping a team that actually cares about WINNING first. Pathetic. Like i said in my post last night. Wenger has NEVER beaten Mourinho. Benitez has BACK-TO-BACK European trophies. Wenger is a good manager but has no consistency when it comes to winning the top trophies (PL, CL, UEFA even). Mourinho has it, Ferguson has it and so does Rafa. Wenger does not and never will. No wonder you sheep have been brainwashed. When you hear your boss telling you ‘winning isn’t everything’ you dare cuss a team in a CL final..Nah i know what. Let’s do the things the Arsenal way and play pretty 5-a-side and get knocked out of everything in March. WIts this shit mentality that means our team cant be asked with corners or set-pieces. ‘Not pretty enough’. Yeah hell no but it wins the trophies don’t it? no wonder Gallas wants out. Cesc will follow. It’s so sad to see a team that used to care about winning under GG now hammer other teams for doing what we used to do best. What did we say back then? ‘AT LEAST WE WIN’. Start the campaign to bring Graham back all is forgiven! Marcus you have my support

• 431. Greg  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 pm

  I agree with everything that Alan said and I’m a Wenger fan.
  Arse fans are in no position to be criticizing anyone what the fuck have we won?

• 432. fool  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:10 pm

  & what makes u such an expert alan?
  had AW not decide to get fresh blood and sell after 2004, we would NOT be a “one-season” team. The team is great coz the only difference btn us and chelski by season end will be a lowly Carling Cup trophy. They will also lose all competition!!!

  U r a stupid pessimist and a sad idiot

• 433. fool  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:14 pm

  Greg u r also a dumb folk. I am NOT a Wenger fan, but u lads r criticizing him for nothing. If ppl like Mourinho have ALL the money and big names but they will only manage the Carling Cup, what is AW 2 be criticized for with the pennies and kids he has?

  Give Jose that and his team will be relegated!!!

• 434. Geekov  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:31 pm

  Alan;

  Del Bosque got sacked because Real madrid DID NOT win La Liga. They had won the Champions League coz of the failure to win the domestic league.
  This is from BBC Sport;

  Real Madrid have decided not to renew the contract of coach Vicente Del Bosque.
  The decision came a day after Real won their 29th league title

  But Alan, I forgot you are such a winner with a great football brain!

• 435. Marcus  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:39 pm

  thankks Alan. ppl just wanna bury their heads in the sand. i dont need to say much else the facts speak for themselves. rafa has back-to-back euro trophies. mourinho has back-to-back euro trophies AND back-to-back PL titles. ferguson has back-to-back league trophies. wenger? one-season wonder. yeah sure now and then the kiddies get a good sugar hit from their haribo blackcurrant starmix…end of the day wot wenger lacks is the consistency WHEN IT COMES TO WINNING. yeah he is consistent at coming 2nd and shit great. top 2 sure. but when it comes to actually winning’em wenger is nowhere in that league of benitez, mourinho or ferguson. no fucking chance. yeah it was a shit game but guess wot? l’pool r in he FINAL. we have been sippin on gin n juice since march. l’pool have 1 CL already and we have NONE. face facts. there is no winning mentality at this club. remember ‘winning isn’t everything’ and ‘you can never improve too much’. we’ll do just great with quotes like that

• 436. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 pm

  But dont forget -

  ‘Being gracious in defeat makes you a loser’

• 437. fool  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 pm

  Marcus for once i disagree with u. I think we HAVE a winning mentality and it has been shown many times. Remember the game against Portsmouth @ Emirates when we were 2-0 down with 20min to go? we fought back! many times we go 1-0 behind and we fight back. we r best @ doing that

  the problem is WE DON”T KNOW HOW TO WIN!!! and that is down to both AW and the lack of experience. AW coz his tactics are just “mobility and passing”. Did u see how liverpool scored the free kick against chelski last nite? That is tactics during set-pieces. and it sent them to the finals!! AW doesn’t know such tactics. That is y Alex also easily put the ball in the net and sent us out of CL.

  the kids are also so naive. they concede silly goals and often late into the game. But i think that the main reason for us going 1-0 down is Jens and the back-four. Total cunts at times

• 438. NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:53 pm

  Im really sorry bout this, but all this shid about back to back titles, champions league medals, yadder yadder fucking yadder….When have Arsenal EVER been in that class? Not since the 1930’s for fuck sake! You lot gotta be either fucking clueless, johnny come latelys, Spuds or Fucking Glory Hunters…Now which one is it? If you want the team to do well, then, derrr! So do the rest of the fuckers on here. But to go on & on & on & on & fucking on with this endless shit about CL Cups, Back to back, tactics, new players, etc…Fuck me have a word with yourselves, its fucking stupid. Who the fuck dont want to win things? But to constantly complain because Liverpool got to another CL final (fair play to them) and Chelsea are going to win 4 trophies (oh no, I forgot, they’re not now are they>? So you cant whinge on aboyut that now can you?) Arsenal have been wank this year, it happens, it happens to ALL teams, even Old purple Nose and I imagine their boards were full of knee jerk glory hunters demanding his head too. Then we have LFC, not won the League for how long now? 17 fucking years! Thats right, the most successful club in England hasnt won the English league for nearly 20 years, but because they’ve got to 2 CL finals, that dont matter? The really sad thing is that if Wenger does fuck off and with dicks like you I wouldnt blame him, then we’ll see the state we’ll end up in, cause the guys been making us punch above our weight for fucking years and if it the Chavs and their billions, I dont think it’d been such a ball ache. Now we gotta deal with them, so if Wenger did go, like Curbishley and what he did for Charlton (that was the closest i could get to a comparison) then the shit would fly but we’d probably be shot of the glory hunters.

• 439. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:59 pm

  We will never come close to Liverpool’s atmosphere.The reason? The Arsenal board (Mr Dein in paticular) priced out the loyal working class fans years ago.Now we have the prawn sandwich brigade and people that jumped on the bandwagon after the 1998 double.

• 440. SPANISH NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 12:59 pm

  And you are a bunch of gays

• 441. NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:01 pm

  Spot on Charlie

• 442. Alan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:01 pm

  Geekov mate no offense but u’re not very smart are you? This what my post 430 said:

  Geekov said:
  “in Spain & Italy that is the main prize to go for. Del Bosque, who managerd Real won the champs league, but coz he didn’t win the Spanish League, he was sacked! (I know, its a bit fucked up that!) Ask Fergie, he wants the League.”

  I said: ‘NOT TRUE. Del Bosque was sacked precisely cuz that very season they WON the Liga but they got knocked out of the CL by Juve. That’s why he got sacked.’

  Then in post 434 u INSIST:

  ‘Del Bosque got sacked because Real madrid DID NOT win La Liga. They had won the Champions League coz of the failure to win the domestic league.’

  So ur argument is basically that the LEAGUE is the important thing to win and that Del Bosque got the sack for not winning the league (but winning the CL instead).

  But then this is where ur little brain lets u down as u go on to contradict your own silly point by quoting BBC Sport:

  ‘Real Madrid have decided not to renew the contract of coach Vicente Del Bosque.
  The decision came a day after Real won their 29th league title’

  So from what i gather…in trying to prove your stupid and pointless point…you’ve actually managed to back mine up by quoting on what i had said: the CL IS the big one. Del bosque got the sack because even thought Real won their 29th league title THEY FAILED IN THE CL!

  Unlucky bird-brain Geekov. if it’s that easy to win a debate against u can we do this every week? i like the way u won the argument for me though. Silly billy…

• 443. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:02 pm

  Charlie Nicololas’s Bum crack,

  The price of success seems very high.

  Its not a barrell of laughs being shit either though

• 444. Kem  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 pm

  That Liverpool goal was typical of Benitez, you have to admit. He probably studied the tapes of how Chelsea defend in those situation, then told Gerrard & Agger to do it, if & when they had the opportunity.

  Not like Wenger. good manager, but a one season man.

  “Go on boys, go out & enjoy yourself on the pitch, I wont give you tactics to win the game, but I’ll make sure Boro Primorac has prepared Corn flake treats, Panda Pop Green Cola & Cheesestrings for when you come for half time”

• 445. Dick (aka Willy)  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:05 pm

  ALAN - I’m glad you used Del Bosque as an example, though probably for contrasting reasons:

  Del Bosque was the last Real Madrid manager to win them the Champions League in the 2001-2002 season. In four seasons at Madrid he won two Champions League tiles, in 2000 and 2002, two La Ligas in 2001 and 2003, the Spanish Super Cup (Spanish equivalent to FA Cup) in 2001 and both the European Supercup and Intercontinental Cup in 2002. They never went a single season while he was in charge without winning a major trophy resulting in their most consistent spell since the 60’s. Not only did he lead through their most successful spell in the club’s modern history, he also bought players like Zidane and Ronaldo to the club. So what do they go and do…? They sack him! Why? Because Madrid didn’t win the Champions League that season? Have Madrid won in the FIVE YEARS since? No??? Funny that, huh?

  THE GRASS IS NOT ALWAYS GREENER.

  There are many so-called “top” managers in the game who wouldn’t have been able to steer the squad we have to 4th place and a Carling Cup Final. No HENRY for two-thirds of the season; no VAN PERSIE for half the season; no GALLAS for half the season AND a stadium move to boot, managing on a comparitively small budget to Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea, with NO MONEY available for new signings - yet he still persuades our captain, arguably the best player in the world, to sign a career-long contract AND persuades our brightest prospect, Cesc Fabregas, to commit to an 8-YEAR CONTRACT… AND never once loses his cool and blames his board or the fact he has no money.

  AND YOU LOT WANT HIM SACKED????

  TWO WORDS, THREE TIMES:

  DEL BOSQUE, DEL BOSQUE, DEL BOSQUE!

• 446. Dick (aka Willy)  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:09 pm

  ALAN - forgot to mention, REAL MADRID (yes, the “Galacitcos”) haven’t won a SINGLE TROPHY since Del Bosque left…

  DEL BOSQUE, DEL BOSQUE, DEL BOSQUE.

• 447. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pm

  hi guys, im working on 1 hyde park now

  big job, so quite busy

  hope u can survive without my great jokes

• 448. Marcus  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pm

  NEWS,

  u missing the point mate. point is i KNOW wot wenger has done for the club. he’s taken us to this great stadium and made us compete and win shit. we wouldnt have got there without him. BUT. now afc are said to be 3rd most valuable club in the world. wenger has taken us really really, really far. yeah sure. favt is that now he’s gotten us this far maybe someone else is needed to kick on to the next level and turn afc from all this ‘punching above their weight’ bullshit i keep hearing (yeah. teams ‘punching above their weight’ spend £10m on alex Pleb and about to spend £17m on reyes. give up with shhit excuses already) to the next level. wenger took us well far. fair dos. but he has shown he cannot win the biggest club trophy in football. 10 years he’s had. say wot u like but rafa has made 2 finals with much worse players. says it all about wenger’s tactics. wenger’s invincibles were a sick team. and he bottled it against CHELSKI of all teams. he got us this far yeah. but u have to keep kicking on. ppl like u r stuck in a small-club syndrome. u do NOT move into a 60,000 seater if u r a ’samll club punching above its weight’. there’s only so long u can use that shit excuse. boring. change the tune. ‘punching above ur weight’…was that anything to do with Psv knocking us out this year? nah? if u wanna talk about ‘punching above your weight’ then talk about rafa winning the CL with cisses, spongolle, letallec and baros and traore. THATS ‘punching above ur weight’. wenger does great stuff then he fucks it all up with his rubbish tactics. he’s done good dont gemme wrong but now we r towards the top-end. may be time for someone else to turn us into a huge fucking club. wenger made the foundation yeah but think someone else might have to finish the job.

• 449. novice  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:11 pm

  Alan, with a name like that are you a nonce?

• 450. Dick (aka Willy)  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:12 pm

  Similarly to Del Bosque at Real, Wenger is our most successful manager in the club’s modern era. Getting rid of him now would be suicidal.

  Some of you lot need to firmly remove your heads from your arseholes.

  Wankers.

• 451. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:14 pm

  Charlie Nicholas’s left testicle,

  Have you ever fooled around with vegtables?

• 452. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:14 pm

  Would have loved George Graham to have had 10 goes at winning the Champions League

• 453. Kem  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:16 pm

  I dont think anyone is saying sack Wenger.

  He just doesn’t deserve this GOD-LIKE STATUS some fans rather stupidly give him

• 454. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:16 pm

  wenger is going nowhere, why are ppl even arguing this?

  u no bob paisley heard u’ll never walk alone in the 60s & decided that will do for us

  why cant we do it?

• 455. Alan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:19 pm

  Dick (Willy),

  Yes thats all true. But u r being too narrow in your argument.
  I am fed up hearing that Afc have ‘no money”.
  (Pleb £10m, Adebayor Gump £8m, Thierry Henry £130k per week, Walcott £5m possibly rising to £12m, Rosicky £8m) so please stop the excuses. The club HAS money in reserve its just Wenger chooses not to spend it. He says so himself. And yeah what you said about Del Bosque is true but you are missing my point. Wenger and Del B cannot be compared. My point is that Wenger has been given all the time and support in the world and can still do fuck all in Europe. Like Kem says, he does not study the opposition. Sends them out to ‘go and play. And u cannot compare the way Real and Afc operate. If Wenger was even half as consistent as Del Bosque then he would NEVER get the sack. Actually, if he had back-to-backs (hardest thing to do) and 2 CLs, no chance. Actually going 3 years without doing jack might be ok. Fact is u r overlooking his shit tactics, shit signings and excuses. Like Marcus said. Wenger’s Arsenal is about spending 3 years to build a good team to win for just one year. How sad is that? Or as Marcus would say…spend 3 years getting them smarties and cocoa pops just so they can fuck off to Madrid and eat tapas, lol…

• 456. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:20 pm

  i think GS should adapt west hams ‘im forever blowing bubbles’ for this site…

• 457. Alan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:22 pm

  Lets get one thing straight. i NEVER said wenger should be sacked. i am SAYING he is a good manager. not a top one though. he has done good things for us but seems to find the next step up too difficult for him. and like Charlie’ Mullet said.
  You give Graham 10 goes at winning the CL and I can almost guarantee he would have come out with at least 2. Especially if you gave him players like Henry, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Campbell, Kolo and Silva. Definate.

• 458. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:24 pm

  so what u r saying is let wenger build a team while GG manages it?

• 459. Little Dutch  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:27 pm

  But GG couldn’t get us into the CL in the first place. The one time he managed it, we fucked up against Benfica, so that is a moot argument.

• 460. gazzap  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:28 pm

  rafa benitez got to the final with Jermaine Pennant and bolo (nobody wants me) zenden, plus crazy legs crane up front. you have to give the man credit. Agger is a decent player though.

• 461. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:29 pm

  hi little dutch, ive missed u so much
  from now on, lets keep in touch

  la la la

  repeat..

• 462. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:30 pm

  This is a little known fact, to motivate his players, Bruce Rioch used to stick pumpkins up there ass, and stick ring doughnuts on the ends of there cocks and make the other players eat them.

  A little coaching tip for you there.

• 463. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:32 pm

  i coach the under 10s, must try that

  thanks boggy

• 464. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:33 pm

  Alan,

  You DID say wenger should be sacked you worhtless, lying sack of shit, Boo-ya

• 465. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:37 pm

  my tip for 2nite - bye bye man poo

• 466. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:39 pm

  milan to go through

  pool? they fuck you too

• 467. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pm

  My tip for tonight,

  Tre to get sacked from the apprentice.

  I hate that ass hole

• 468. Yid  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pm

  Blog head u r an embarassment to the spuds. Foul-mouthed maggot

• 469. fabz  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pm

  Hi bloggie-fat-head

• 470. Little Dutch  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pm

  Ron, your reaction is natural, I am the special one. What pisses me off with people all of a sudden widshing for GG is they are probably the same ones who were chanting, “spend some fucking money” in about January 1995. For what it’s worth I’d never bag the Graham era, he brought us a great deal of success and he pretty much kept Tottenham stranded in mediocrity, how could I not love him? But it was clearly his time to go. To lose Wenger now would be the worst possible thing to happen to this club. I rate Benitez very highly, as a manager and a person. You can’t question his European credentials, he knows his spuds on the continent. But we stand an excellent chance of finishing above Liverpool this year, Benitez was moaning about not having Arsenal’s ability in the market for young players. Wenger, like all managers, has his faults. Those bringing up the sums paid for Reyes etc might like to consider the following acquisitions, Kezman, Shevchenko, Kleberson, Djemba Djemba, Traore, Morientes. Every manager has his duffers. To think Wenger is someohow alone is so mind numbingly stupid.

• 471. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pm

  well there isnt that many ass holes that ud turn down boggy

  so he must have dingle berries or something…

• 472. Geekov  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:43 pm

  Alan, I ballsed up big time mate. I got my facts the wrong way round. I know they sacked him after they HAD won the champs league (twice, I think?) but forgot is was after they’d won the La Liga title. Sorry fella. The point I was making is still right in my opinion. The domestic titles are the first priority of any club. Champs league is great, but ask Fergie what he wantas to win. I just think the hype about Champs league has tried to overshadow being the best team in YOUR OWN league first.

  Sorry mate, please forgive me!

• 473. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:46 pm

  Geekov,

  Plonker

• 474. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:47 pm

  teams can fluke the CL, but the prem isnt as easy to fluke

  EPL winners gain more respect

  but i want the CL most, cos we have never won it

  sorry to spoil it for yous, but milan will beat the pool 2-1 in the final

• 475. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 pm

  man utd will win EPL
  chelsea will win FA Cup

  money in the bank

• 476. toobe  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 pm

  NEVER ron u r a fool. CL is true respect. EPL champ is just a stupid efficient machine playing boring games but winning.

• 477. Kem  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 pm

  “Wenger’s Arsenal is about spending 3 years to build a good team to win for just one year. How sad is that? Or as Marcus would say…spend 3 years getting them smarties and cocoa pops just so they can fuck off to Madrid and eat tapas, lol…”

  Never a truer word spoken.

  3 years of building to win a league & fa cup double, then to fail to defend the league title & do fuck all in europe. Then wait another four years to have a title push.

  Too many excuses.

• 478. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:50 pm

  Ron,

  thats what everyone said last time.

  I say Man Utd will beat Liverpool 4-2

• 479. Boo-ya  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:51 pm

  Whooa Whoooooooaaa!
  Am getting my dick sucked! —- by the cat!

• 480. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:52 pm

  I’ve even spawned a couple of spin-offs

• 481. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pm

  i am kem, i am kem!!

• 482. Dave  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 2:27 pm

  Lehmann: “We can win the Champions League next season.”
  Hoyte: “We can win the league next season.”
  Blithering idiots, should do the talking rather on the pitch. You can talk as long as you’re successful, but if you aren’t then it is a little bit awkward in my opinion. The best example for this is Mourinho, nobody can say anything about his arrogant way as long as he’s successful. However his statements yesterday were more than ridiculous and attested to a sad loser image. Can’t wait for the Russian bitch to sack him.

• 483. russian gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 2:29 pm

  Damn right, dave damn right. arsenal players are now a bunch of wobbling cunts with big mouths and no play.

• 484. Good to be a GOONAH!!  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 2:39 pm

  I poke my head into my fav Arsenal blog and am greeted with…

  483. russian gooner | May 2nd, 2007 at 2:29 pm
  Damn right, dave damn right. arsenal players are now a bunch of wobbling cunts with big mouths and no play.

  nice… we have terrific supporters

• 485. Blog Head  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 2:47 pm

  Once I poked my head into Charlie Nicolas’s Mullets room,

  He’s a sick bastard

• 486. gunzor  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 2:48 pm

  if AW had brought on robben and geremi in extra time to take penalties, we’d rip him to fucking pieces now cause its so incredibly dumb. mourinho, on the other hand, is considered a tactical genius and is proven on the european stage. yet he totally fucked everything up yesterday with having robben and geremi amongst the first penalty takers.. had he chosen drogba, essien whatnot to take the first couple, woulda been different.
  so, basically, mourinho fucked it up and is the reason that chelsea are out. the only ‘tactical genius’ in the premierleague is benitez, and wenger is no worse or no better than either mourinho or ferguson. get some perspective.

• 487. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 2:53 pm

  Gunzor….you obviously missed the official announcement that Wenger is shit and Moronho is a tactical genius…It was on the news I think…I missed it as well as I was watching CSI…
  I’m just guessing from some of the posts on this board over the last few months.

• 488. gunzor  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:00 pm

  i’d just like to see what all the moaners would say if arsene left tomorrow and took half of our first squad with him cause they cant be bothered to play under some random manager with whom they have no common ground at all. those calling wenger a failure are obviously in favour of changing managers but they are completely ignorant of the consequences this would have. and if you dont call for changing the manager, stop critizing the current one. that position is, by the very simple rules of logic, hopeless.

• 489. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:04 pm

  Woah Woah Woah Guznor, now you’re calling for LOGIC??? You’re new to this board yes?? That kinda crazy talk doesn’t go down well round here!

• 490. gunzor  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 pm

  fg (that sounds like fag, i didnt mean it that way!, you understand me at least, right? give me some hope

• 491. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:16 pm

  I’m quite a beleiver in ‘you get what you deserve’…and a lot of these ‘Fans’ are getting exactly what they deserve, except if they got what they truly deserve then Arsene would leave tomorrow and take Cesc, Thierry and Co with him. (So lets hope they don’t get it!)
  As I’ve said on here many times (Sorry to people who are onm this board a lot)we didn’t deserve to get through in the Champs League cos of the shameful display by our fans, it was just embarrassing and I don’t want those people to have success. If that means a couple of years in the ‘doldrums’ of still seeing some of the best players to have ever played for Arsenal and some of the best football we’ve produced then so be it. I’ll grit my teeth and bear it.

• 492. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:19 pm

  I’m referring to the fact that many of our fans left the ground with 7 minutes to go (After having sat in silence for 83 minutes) with us needing two goals against PSV by the way, the same amount of time Liverpool took to score THREE against Milan.

• 493. gazzap  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:25 pm

  point is, with the amazing players that wenger has brought in, he has under acheived. OK so he may have over acheived in bringing them in in the first place (punch above weight etc) but given the players we have had over the years we have not won the trophies we should have done or got close to winning a trophy this season.
  in the past wenger did not need much in the way of tactics. he had 3 or 4 players that pretty much decided his tactics for him (vieira, Bergkamp, Pires and Henry) and we played that way for years.
  suddenly he needs to show some tactical nouse and has been found wanting (other than the CL last season where he found the 4-5-1 and stuck to it and it worked).
  If wenger cant see that the current team does not work then he is blind. we have really suffered this season, i have not really been able to enjoy much of it - other than the CC run and the odd good result. I dont want to go through that for the third season running. winning trophies is not everything to me, but under acheiving, given the players we have, is hugely frustrating.

  Replace Vieira (that might just mean put Diaby in central midfield) and 15-goal-Pires (add another Rosicky - Walcott???), and cut out the stupid freebie goals from Jens and we are back on track. its not that far away from working but it does take 2 or 3 important decisions from wenger before we have a chance. wenger has to admit there’s a problem before he can solve it.

• 494. gunzor  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:25 pm

  well i think that has a lot to do with the way arsenal play. they give off an air of arrogance that is sometimes unbearable, because you see them distributing the ball perfectly for 2 minutes and creat an easy chance just for someone to waste it. they sometimes dont seem to grasp the importance of a game. i can see that the fans get fed up with that, 70% possession and loosing to the only chance the opposition has. if you look at pool v milan, the fans HAD to stay out of decency to milan because pool were just outclassed in the first half, it had nothing to do with them missing easy sitters. so i think theres some justification in the way that the fans get fed up with arsenal’s sloppiness. remember cska, psv in eindhoven, and so, so many more this season. lets just hope they become more lethal next season or else our beautiful combinations really dont mean shit.

• 495. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:42 pm

  Gunzor-But the point isn’t that the Liverpool fans stayed against Milan, it’s that they were still singing their hearts out and cheering their team on when it looked impossible for them to win. When things went against us our fans went “Oh fuck you then” and went home.

  Gazzup-You make some good points but I think there’s a chance that we might be exaggerating how easy it’d be to replace some of those players. Yes Diaby looks like he could be the ‘next vieira’ but can you name me a midfielder who we could realistically get for under 15 million who’d score more than 15 goals a year? Also, who could EVER replace Dennis? I’m not gonna argue that we couldn’t have replaced some of them quicker and with players of a closer standard than we did, and we lost lots of important players in a very short space of time but I think we’re on the right path to building another great team.

• 496. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:47 pm

  The difference between GG era and now is that you had to be CHAMPIONS to get into the Champions League.In 1989 we couldnt compete because English clubs were banned and in 1991 a very green George Graham (in European terms) played too attacking v benfica and we got spanked.Difference is Graham learned form his mistakes and in our next European campaign we won the Cup Winners Cup.
  What Im saying for 10 years and the best Wenger can do is two quarter finals and one final it isnt really that impressive.

• 497. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:51 pm

  I’d agree that’s not impressive CNM.

• 498. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:54 pm

  well wot bout our recent fa cup record?

  and before last year we didn finish outside the top two

  impressive?

• 499. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:55 pm

  500 ton gun

• 500. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:55 pm

  500 ton gun?

• 501. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 3:58 pm

  The Champions League is the holy grail and the FA Cup is becoming less and less credible.As for finishing second I can only think of one season where we were close to Man U or Chelsea.You can finish second and be 20 points behind and you can finish third on goal difference

• 502. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:00 pm

  GG completely changed the team from that point on though, before that we scored a lot of goals and, despite people calling us boring, we were an exciting team to watch. The next year we scored less than half the goals we did in the season that Benfica beat us and won two cups…the year after that we scored almost 30 less and won the CWC. The fact is we never challenged for the league again under him playing his ‘new style’.

  I guess I’m wondering if people would just swap all the flair of the current sides for success? That might sound stupid but if we could grind out 1-0’s all season would everyone be happy? I was watching that game last night and they were just hoofing it long, I remember thinking that it’s no wonder we don’t usually do well in this comp compared to them, it’s a different game!

  If we want to just gring out results we should get rid of Wenger, it’s not his game. Sam Allardyce is free????

• 503. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:04 pm

  98 won
  99 2pts
  01 3pts
  02 won
  03 close
  04 won

  not 100% accurate, but u get the picture

  to a win a cup u may get a massive decision in a game u wouldnt otherwise progress in

  to win a league takes a lot more qualities

• 504. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:05 pm

  I think it’s bollocks that the Champs League is the holy grail. Yeah I want to win it, but only so we can shut people up about it. After that give me a league every time. I don’t know many Bayern/AC?Juve fans I can wind up about beating their side and picking up a trophy.

  A Cup Competition doesn’t prove anything about who’s the best side in it. Look at Porto, if you want to be brutally honest look at the CWC when we won it. Were we a better side than Parma, complete with Zola, Brolin and Asprilla? Fuck NO!

  This ‘You’re not a great club/manager/player till you win it stuff winds me up. Djimi Traore has a champs league medal…if you’re telling me he’s a great player cos he’s got one you’re talking out of your arse.

• 505. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:06 pm

  Falklands I agree with most of what you say but people should realise there is more to football than flair and passing the ball about.

• 506. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:09 pm

  Actually Ron, a good example of the ‘big decision’ case you mention would have been if the Ref had given a penalty for one of those Chelsea dives last night. They’d be in the final.

• 507. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:09 pm

  ppl do realise that but they would prefer 2 c exciting footy instead of boring defensive crap

  i would prefer wenger over GG anyday

• 508. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:10 pm

  Agreed CNM, I’d rather we had more of a blend myself, I was genuinely curious about what people would choose though if they had to.

• 509. Falklands Gooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:12 pm

  Anyway, off home! Cheers lads.

• 510. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pm

  get u back here u wee cunt

• 511. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:25 pm

  Traore is a great player Zico isnt fit to lace his boots

• 512. Chris  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:31 pm

  CNM well said post 501. Frankly, i am getting a little sick of the whole ‘punching above their weight’ thingy. Alan also made an excellent point on that. Yeah sure. Arsene has brought in great players and discovered them. But frankly GazzaP is right. He had Bergkamp, Vieira and Pires. The minute they leave what does he do? Lost. Face facts guys. The CL IS the big trophy to win. Every huge club has one. Name me one BIG club that doesn’t have one? Thats right you can’t. Wenger has had 10 years to do stuff in it. Benitez came and schooled him big-style. FA Cup is a joke competition in which managers like Warnock ‘rest’ players. Dam. EPL is a predictable two-hores race between the Fulhma blues and United. Alan’s point on Wenger is great because it is SO true:

  ‘Wenger’s Arsenal is about spending 3 years to build a good team to win for just one year’

  Wenger would get a lot less stick if he could win back-to-back titles or even win at least one CL. Say what u like about GG. but if you gave him these set of players and 10 years, you’re guaranteed at least 2 CLs. Maybe even 3 finals. LD’s example on Benfica forgets to mention that only the top team qualified for CL back then. I rate Wenger and don’t want him sacked. I’m too grateful to him for that. What I AM saying though is that he is not this GOOD ppl like to paint him as and it’s ridiculous that the minute anyone dares to criticize him they’re called names. Stupid. Benitez is so many light years ahead of Wenger in European terms it’s actually quite csickening. At Valencia he makes a UEFA Cup final and thrashes OM in the final. Follows that up form coming from 3 goals behind and beating Milan with shite players like SMicer and Pongolle to win the CL. Now he is in another final. His second in just 3 seasons. Wenger has a one-off in 10 years. Wenger takes ages to build great teams but they are not built to dominate like Uniteds and the Chels teams are. They are built for a one-off season (ie unbeaten, double)…but never have the strength or reserves to follow it up and it sux. GG would defs have done better in Europe.

• 513. Michael  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pm

  FG you could not be more wrong if you tried. Spot on Chris. Just sour grapes from Gooners. The C league IS the holy grail. Cup comp or not..it separates the big boys from the small teams. And even if its a cup comp. then surely ONE day it HAS to be your lucky turn eh? Arse have had over 10 years to have one lucky break. They got 2. First was when they had to finish the job at home to Chelski. They bottled it. Shit tactics from Wenger AGAIN despite our half-time lead. We managed to LOSE. Then last season we got lucky when Villareal battered us in the 2nd leg only for Jens to save us. Bottled the final and in particular we all know who cost us that final (Wenger for taking Pires off, and Henry for missing 2 sitters). All the big great clubs have a CL. it is what defines them. It is stupid to say otherwise. Oh and if the league’s so important we have not won that little baby for over 3 years now. So where the fuck are we? And great post Dave. I am SICK to the back-teeth of hearing these cunt players come out with ‘we can win the CL next season’ or ‘we can win the league’. Hoyte should shut the fuck up as he is toilet. Lehmann should shut the fuck up cos he will cost us the CL AGAIN next season with his stupid mistakes. Wenger shouldnt get the sack but please realise the man is seriously limited in Europe and he is an underachiever in trophy terms and no back-to-backs and 0 CLs. Fact.

• 514. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pm

  if…

  henry is fit & sharp all next season, rvp stays fit, ade improves & bendtner can cut it in the prem…

  gallas & toure form a decent understanding, clichy continues to improve, eboue can play like he did when he was coming through…

  rosicky plays like pires, gilbo & fab keep doing what they are doing, with diaby & denilson covering & hleb, freddie, or walcott can imrove drastically

  and perhaps an experienced player or two is bought…

  we will win the league

  we are not as far away as the points difference suggests

  rons nose

• 515. a random person  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:45 pm

  top post ron; u are my hero, how can we all be more like you?

• 516. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:47 pm

  thanks mate, u could try taking omega 3 to make u more intelligent but i doubt anybody can come close to my greatness

• 517. NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:53 pm

  The fact that Arsenaol have been in their new stadium for, ooh, must be almost a year now, I dont think they can start spending £30M+ on a single player yet. They wont be able to use the excuse of not having much cash to spend soon, but not yet. They have spent less than loads of teams, I dont see that as n excuse, more like a fact. I find it funny that people think Wenger refuses to spend for the sake of it. I DO think he is a bit picky about not going over a certain amount. Like how we didnt go for certain players coz they were £5 over his ideal price tag! But I do not think he is intentionally not spending cash to prove a point. When he knows it needs strengthening! I do think he is too conservative at times and wont splash out, but he used to take punts on loads of players (Mendes, etc) and now he doesn’t, why is that? Maybe coz the money aint there YET. Punching above our weight is a good analogy compared with how much cash has been spent in relation to other clubs.

  He has spent in the past, like Reyes (how much do we owe on him?) and more recently Hleb. (He obviously thought he’d be a great signing as he spent 2 years looking at him) They were his major buys, he didnt really buy anyone else, why? No MONEY! Dont be giving me this bull about he’s got money and he aint spending it, thats fucked up. Hleb hasnt worked out and Reyes never will now, but that happens with signings. As Lil Dutch said, look at Djemba Djemba, Kleberson, Veron, Mutu, Wright Phillips, etc, etc. It hurts us more coz of the fact that the bo0ss cant just go out, say, fuck it, and buy someone else as he fucks the useless twat out the door to another club. The choice is simple, Arsenal continue playing as they are or adopt a more structured, organised, efficient, boring, mundane hoofmeister style. Seems that most on here would prefer the latter.

  All this talk about the CL being the Be all n End All just makes me think even more that we got a load of knee jery glory hunters. Although the fact we’ve been shit, the boss HAS fucked up as some of the players have and we have to endure all of our main rivals carving up the prizes is a fucking nightmare, so maybe all the frustration is coming out in torents and the boss is the main culprit in the eyes of many, what do ya reckon?

  I aint making excuses for the club, players of manager, I want success, next year would be a nice time to get it!

• 518. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:58 pm

  if the yanks give benitez plenty of money so they can mount a serious title bid.
  If Newcastle employ a decent manager like Allardyce who can get them going for top 4
  if tottenham have a better start than this season
  And most importantly if our pre season is bogged down in time consuming board room bollocks we are fucked
  Arsenal fans seem to be ignorant about other teams they are like a blinkered horse they dont see what is around them and cant see the opposition getting faster and stronger

• 519. Geekov  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 4:59 pm

  Top post ron!

  Cant believe the kack coming out of some people on here, its fucking hilarious!

  No wonder some are being called Glory Hunters!

• 520. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 5:05 pm

  Why Ron, you do indeed make me laugh at your disillusional perception of your own intelligence.

  Everyone is quite aware that it is I that is the most intelligent person on this blog. I may have no personality, robot-like perhaps, but I do have an abundance of intelligence.

  Sure just look at my posts, I regularly use big words, which undoubtly proves this fact.

  Finally, I dont use these big words to feel superior, or fool people into thinking that I am intelligent. This is a natural method of communication, especially to discuss football. I bet you hear people talking like me in pubs all the time.

  That will be all.

• 521. NEWS  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 5:07 pm

  Of course Benitez can get to a final with ’shit players’. The whole is better than the individuals in his set up. Its all about organisation, its about players being given jobs to do and sticking to them, not going off on a mazey run, taking on 4 players and getting the ball took off em. Its what Moureen does and Fat Sam, this tactic gets results. The football isnt pretty, anyway actually enjoy that game last night? Nah! So if thats how you want it, then I suggest you get together, get a petition going, get the board to sack Wenger and demand that Sam Alladyce gets the job (or better still, lets dust off GG!) And for some clueless glory hunter to say GG would have won 3 CL cups by now is fucking hilarious. That seems to be the strewngth of some arguments; looking into their Crystao Balls and coming out with Mystic Meg predictions to validate their arguments. Ive got a prediction for you;

  Wooooooohhhh! Well I see a time when Arsenal will be languishing in Mid table Mediocrity due to the shite supporters who only make noise to fucking complain, so wenger said fuck this, Im off!

  Au revoir

• 522. ron  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pm

  brutally honest there RH

  ok, that one was me, but it wasnt me y’day

  go on admit RH, u found it a little bit funny…

  like, i am a funny guy…

• 523. Alan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 5:14 pm

  Well said Charlie Nic the blinkers are ridiculous. Imagine who Chelski and Manu will be signing next season. FFS we are left behind in the transfer market by SPURRS these days. They got Berbatov. We got Forrest Gump for almost the same price. They got Lennon. We got Gibbon Pleb. It’s all ‘ifs’ ‘buts’ ‘onlys’. Ppl cannot see the wood from the trees. It is sad. Let me tell you something I am half-Brazilian from a region called Bahia. I am a Sao Paolo fan (and an Arsenal fan. Grew up in Islington when i moved here at 12 years old). Anyway point is I still follow Sao Paolo closely. I remember a very good point made on the board by RH one time when he was discussin Wenger and not spending money. DID YOU KNOW that Arsene Wenger and Sao Paolo’s president had verbally agreed an £8 million deal for Kaka over 4 years ago? It was all over the Sao Pao press at the time and ppl were convinced Kaka was good as signed for us. I was SO excited especially because we worship him in Sao Pao and Wenger had been following him for over 2 years. What happens? Wenger stalls and says he will not go above £6.5 for Kaka. Sao’s president gets angry and pulls the plug. Now. I know it was quite alot of cash for a young kid…but look at what we COULD have had now. For me spending that cash on Kaka is the same as spending it on Adebayor. They are both from smaller leagues than the EPL and both unproven. But who would you rather have?
  It is true and i see a few guys agree with me out there. Wenger spends 3 years building a side just for them to do the business for a one-off season. Wenger is a very good manager. But until he wins the CL, he will nevr be considered a top one. Otherwise, name one great club manager without a CL. And name me one great club without a CL.

  Course you can’t.

• 524. Alan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 5:16 pm

  Ron can you stop acting like a complete and utter cunt also please? Seriously. I am starting to believe that everything RH said about you yesterday was accurate. You really are obsessed with the guy jeez…
  Can you actually go ONE DAY without obsessing over the guy? Please? You would get much less general abuse if you’d stop stealing other ppl’s id’s and acting like an all-round cunt since birth.
  Talk about football and Arsenal or fuck off to a Spud board.

• 525. gazzap  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 5:17 pm

  Falklands Gooner - you ask how we can replace Bergkamp or 15 goal Pires? Well potentially wenger already has its just his tactics are so bad it hasn’t allowed those players or the team to flourish.
  rosicky might be good enought but he also might be too injury prone, I was told at the weekend thats why Dortmund wanted rid of him.

  Ade and Henry together could be better than Bergkamp and Henry as a pair. as I say Rosicky might develop further next year. diaby might not as good or as experienced as paddy, but he is the right kind of player for the central midfield area. he chases people and makes them make a mistake , he goes and fights for the ball - neither cesc nor gilberto do that. I dont know whether Diaby works well with Cesc - people say not (which I dispute). If not then I’m pretty sure he’d work very well with Gilberto (Vieira and Gilberto were the heart beat of the unbeaten team) and I have seen Diaby work very well with Denilson at Bolton in the cup, which was our most impressive midfield display of the season.

  then you could replace Pires with RVP on the wing. he would score you your 15 in a season and can be creative and can also get stuck in and not afraid of a bit of work.
  immediately there you have a team that is totally different to wengers toothless wonders without any investment.

  Almunia
  Toure Djourou Gallas Clichy
  RVP Diaby Gilberto/Cesc Rosicky
  Henry Ade/Bendtner

• 526. Alan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 5:20 pm

  And NEWS please wake the fuck up. You really are a rose-tinted saddo. What ARE you on about? How many European trophies GG win Arse? 1. How many Wenger win? With much better players? Smith or Henry? Wenger = 0. Funny thing is..i reckon Smusger would have buried the 2 sitters Henry missed in the CL final. Try to be objective for a second and see that Wenger is NOT GOD. He has underachieved with the players at his disposal since 2003. Yes even in our unbeaten season and with the best team in Europe, he could not win us the CL. And i see you STILL have not answered my question. Name me one single BIG club that has never won a CL. Or name me a single BIG Club manager that has never won one. I’m still waiting. (Though i suspect you will go very quiet from now)

• 527. Michael  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 5:24 pm

  Nice one Gazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppp!

  Arsene’s tactics are toilet…

• 528. Clint  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pm

  Yo you guys are all a bunch of limp-dick fags. DO YOU KNOW there’s bare folk stravin in the world and all u punk-asses care about is 22 dicks running around to kick and lick balls? How fucking spoilt little dicks you are. Sad ppl with no lives. Why do you go on a blog? Got no real friends? If you have interesting jobs then you wouldnt be here 24/7. You all suck mega. It is sad that humanity has come to this. Worshipping overpaid ass wipes. Anyone that comes on this board id a bag-ass fag-choke. And anyone who calls me a ‘homophobe’ for sayin that well I’ll just get all Eminem on your ass and quote him:

  ‘I’m not homophobic. You motherfuckaz is just Hetero-phobic’

  Seriously get a life all of you all.

• 529. Kem  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 6:15 pm

  Clint, suck ya mum if you don’t like it.

• 530. Nacho  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:02 pm

  Hello. I have been on this blog before if you remember i am the guy half-English but that lives in Catalunya. It seems as there will be some good news for Arsenal fans this summer because Eto has said this to the press in Cameroon:

  ‘Of course it would be an honour to play for Arsenal, and especially for Arsene Wenger. I believe me and Thierry Henry in attack together would be beautiful. Of course I will always have Barcelona in my heart but life goes in cycles and this season is not as I had hoped. I knnow alot of people question ‘why Arsenal’? Some people see it as taking a step down it seems but I am an ambitious person. They play in a great stadium and the Premier league fascinates me. Of course it is complicated but anyway it is something that has always appealed to me. We will have to see what happens over the summer”

  It looks like a real prospect but i would not be surprised if Wenger prefered to play with Adebayor and Bendtner instead and say to people “I do not have room for these players”. If Wenger is smart he will get the money and sign him. Eto wants to join you guys it is clear.

  Nos vemos. Amunt Barca!

• 531. Kem  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:10 pm

  I hope your right Nacho!

• 532. Marcus  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:26 pm

  yeah as always same rose-tinted shit. Now we have idiots who reckon the CL ain’t important. Yeah ‘the league is the one’. Oh but we cant win that either can we? Like i said. Wenger teams take 3 years to build and only last a season. Proof is there. have to laugh at ppl slating L’pool too. u go ask cesc and gallas wot they would rather be doing on may 23. would they rather be a) whacking off to pictures of eva longoria and shopping for pic-n-mix Haribo strawberry fizz? or b) playing in a CL final? righty-o then. full of shit. i cannot believe the lengths some ppl go to just to act like arsene is God. good manager granted. NOT a top manager no chance. like i said. give GG 10 years and these players and u can guarantee we’d have at least 1 CL. if not 2. as for eto i reckon he wants to come but wenger’ll knock that on the head. after all eto actually enjoys savoury food. u cant play for afc these days unless you enjoy fruitellas for breakfast, panda cola-pop for drink, apple sours for lunch, haribo strawbs for dinner and fairy cakes for afters. cant play for afc if u a winner either. gotta be a big-time bottler who needs to be breast-fed. same shit. look i know we’re a good club and that. but enough of these excuses about ‘punching above our weight’ its fucking boring. we play to a sell-out 60,000 ground every week and ppl go on about ‘punching above their weight’. as for the Psv thing FG u r dead wrong. why shouldn’t the fans walk out early? would u keep paying £10 quid a pop to watch groundhog day at the cinema time after time, after time, after time? same movie on different days? and especially knowing how fucking pricy it was and how bill murray was earning a shitload of cash for saying the same lines again and again while u were gettin fleeced? exact. we’ve seen these bottlers waste far too many before and fair play to those who walked out early. i think booing is bang outta order. but walking out is their right. why the fuck should the players have eeverything their own way> perform shit? aaah never mind. com here. i’ll give u a chocolate care-bar and a fizzy-gum cola bottle. u miss 99 easy chances? u ‘lions’ played brilliant. well done. i prefered the afc team that got red cards all the time. at least it showed they got stuck in and cared. look at this midfield it is a joke. for the money wenger spend on ade-Tool he could have got much better eg Andy johnson. then again. johnson probably spit the vintage 1894 fruit-pop and frosting out of his gob. bullshit. give GG same money, same players and 10 years and i guarantee wenger would be left with egg on his face. oi ain’ saying sack him. but next year is his moment of truth. and if he leaves and takes all the players with him then he really would be a prize p….dont gemme wrong i like the guy. but seriously. chelski werent always around and he had the chance for back-to-back and bottled it. bottlers. henry bottled the CL final. sold it. pleb is a bottler. so is rosicky who spends his whole time injured no wonder dortmund were so quick to sell.

• 533. George Costanza  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 7:58 pm

  KakAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

• 534. dan  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:06 pm

  GG would have bought a load of shite midfielders like Jensen, Schwartz and all the other useless wankers he brought in once he’d burnt our youth prodigies out - so don’t talk shite pal.

  Oh I forgot about Kiwomya and Hartson.

  Wenger is a genius you thick pseudo lad I cannot believe paople are doubting the man - pathetic.

• 535. Dave  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:15 pm

  Frank Lampard died in a helicopter crash yesterday with several other Chelski players including Cashley. Can anybody confirm these news?

• 536. George Costanza  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:15 pm

  SeedorFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!

  Come on Milano, bury the bastards!

• 537. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:20 pm

  YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS 2-0 xxxxxxxxxxxxx

• 538. ey  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:48 pm

  marcus is Gelbs in disguise.

  Hint…Dortmund sold Rosicky because he had a claus that allowed him to leave if the team was not performing, and Dortmund hav been flirting with relegation ever since he left.

• 539. mancgooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 8:53 pm

  I think its funny that people really and I mean really want to argue the toss about Arsenal, not which players shit and needs to go, not how the team should play in Europe or who needs to be bought, or the shit about the Krankie dude, but they wanna argue with other Gooners, calling em dicks, whatever and just work their nuts off to try and convince everyone how the WHOlE fucking club is shit, from the Manager down!

  You must have slagged off every single player, plus the manager and the tea fucking lady.

  Why are you so desperate to tell us all exactly how fucking useless Our manager is and how fucking dreadful the players are and we might as well not bother next season???

  And no, I dont think Wenger’s god, the guys fucked up this season and other season’s, he could have kept some players and got rid of others, and the way they play makes it kind of easy for the opposition if the players are not in form and they wanna walk the ball into the net, how the defense has been missing this season and we’ve let in loads of soft soft goals. The away games where the team hasnt turned up; Fulham, Sheff Utd, PSV, not to mention the homes. yep, aware of the negatives, as well as the positives (shit, thats a rory statement). And the rest of the

• 540. ey  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:27 pm

  Livercunts - Meeeelan final. Lovely.

• 541. Dave  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:31 pm

  There will be never a top English team winning the CL because of the tough winter repertoire. Same thing with Arsenal 2004 and the years before. You have to have two full strenght squads in order to compete in all those useless competitions. The Mancs can hardly run but perhaps the CL is less corrupt than the Premier League and that’s the reason why they look so burned.

• 542. Little Dutch  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 pm

  Gelbs, what do you put United’s tepid surrender down to? Shit tactics lmfao? Playing shit cunts like Fletcher, O’Shea and Brown lol? We need to show the spirit of ‘99, cunt Ferguson living on past glories pmsl?

• 543. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 pm

  At least Ferguson has a past glory in the CL. As does Mourinho, Benitiez. Tepid surrender? Who knows? Maybe a one-off poor match or just the fact they gave absolutely everything to come back against Everton to win 4-2 Saturday and the league title which is practically sown up which they worked so hard to achieve finally caught up with them. “lmfao” “lol.”

• 544. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:39 pm

  What do you think our reason (excuse) was for such a tepid surrender as you put it, against a mediocre team like PSV?

• 545. ey  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:42 pm

  “Maybe a one-off poor match ”

  How long have you been watching footbal? During Purple Nose’s reign, they have been shit for all but two years in Europe. 99, where they were outclassed and outplayed by Bayern andHitzfiled wiped the floor with Demento, and this year. And He’s been at United 2x as Wenger.

  Sorry Gelbs, you pathetic cunt, that your team has bowed out.

• 546. mancgooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pm

  Mourinho and Ferguson; great managers, top coaches, fantastic tacticians, won back to back titles, CL Cups, won the lot, great motivators, coaches and all that. But they been knocked out of the Semi finals of the Champs League by inferior opposition.

  Ah, they fucking shit, they’re rubbish, clowns, no fucking idea. Shit substitutions, bring back Claudio Ranieri, I say.

  United been top all season, playing great, went to the San Siro with a goal lead, got outclassed, stuffed. Oh, but they got a few injuries, yeah, thats it, oh, and they got a few new players havent settled yet and then there’s the young players, they’ll come good when they get more experience.

  No they’re rubbish, clueless clowns, sack em, all the players are shit too; Ronaldo, Rooney, Scholes, Giggs; all fuckin rubbish, sack the lot of em……….repeat…………..repeat………….repeat………repeat……..

• 547. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 pm

  United been shit in Europe for 2 years? What’s that make Wenger then you cunt? Shit in Europe in a decade. Took Ferguson 6 years to win a CL. Wenger? Still waiting. Hell would have to freeze over first.

• 548. easy tiger  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:50 pm

  ok

• 549. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 pm

  Oh, and Ferguson as a whole has won 3 European trophies to add to his CV. How many has Wenger won? That’s right boys and girls……..NONE. BUT….He does at least hold the record for the only manager in footballing history to lose all 3 major euro finals.

• 550. Nick  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:01 pm

  Glebs… fuck off back to tottenham you spud wanker.

• 551. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 pm

  Nice comeback. I know my facts and never be beaten in a comeback. I’ll always have an answer and always piss over someone elses lame attack.

  CUNTS.

• 552. mancgooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:03 pm

  Fucking Ferguson, why the fuck didnt replace Keane? Had loads of time, cant have Scholes & Carrick in centre Mid, clown, loser, useless, past it clown, sack him….Oh but you gotta give it time to work, they’ll do better next season, he’s won stuff in the past, you know titles, cups, etc,No its crap, get rid.

  But Fergie wants to win the Prem more, he aint won it for 4 years, or done shit in europe for ages, but he wants the Prem, its his priority, the CL is a bonus, etc, etc, ….

• 553. Nick  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pm

  Is that because you are a spud in disguise? Fuck off back to tottenham you spud wanker.

• 554. Nick  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pm

  …and take your lilly white spud mates with you, Glebs you spud wanker freak

• 555. Dave  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pm

  Ronaldo is an overrated piece of shit, never understood the hype about him. Kaka showed during 180 minutes that he is the best midfielder in the world. Fabregas, Lampard and Gerrard are all mediocre compared to him. Get that damn cheque book out and bring him to Arsenal (a dream that will never come true).

• 556. A Fergie  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pm

  gelbs, come back to the united board, we need you over there, everyone’s really down, they need you to cheer em up, you know it’ll make em feel better if they see someone is suffering more than them.

• 557. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:31 pm

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• 558. Invincible Wall  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:36 pm

  http://www.arsenalnewsreview.co.uk/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=602&cntnt01origid=30&cntnt01returnid=42

  Lmao. The always reliable palm, predicting the opposite even as he reveals that he is all Man-U.

• 559. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 pm

  That’s almost as funny as Wenger saying 2 years ago he was gonna make Arsenal the best club in the World and Ljungberg’s comments last summer about how strong and determined etc “we” are to win everything. And David Dein believing Arsenal could go one step further than May 2006 and win the CL. Only to go out with a whimper against the mightly Dutch Champions.

• 560. Nick  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:39 pm

  Glebs, you spud tit.

• 561. gunner4eva  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:41 pm

  isnt it great to see gelbs in so much pain hahahahahaha

• 562. Nick  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 pm

  Gleb’s, you are beginning to make me hate you. I don’t think you want that.

• 563. gunner4eva  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:53 pm

  so the holy grail of the CL is between two teams that aren’t even the best teams in their leagues milan 28 points behind the leaders and liverpool 18 points behind

• 564. Chris  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 10:59 pm

  Have to laugh at all these rose-tinted fools revelling in ManU and Chels going out. That is how low our club has sunk. We cannot even talk about how brilliant our side is, we have to talk about other rivals failing. Say what you lie but Wenger IS an underachiever. Players at his disposal: Pires, Bergkamp, Henry, Cole, Clichy as back-up, Lauren, Ljungberg on fire, Vieira, Silva, Kolo…he has had 10 years. Say what you want about Ferguson and Mourinho or Benitez. Wenger has NO HISTORY IN THE CL. None whatsoever. The others have all earned their stripes. Facts are like Alan said. Wenger knocked back the chance to sign Kaka. Never mind eh? For the same dough we got Ade-Tool. Our tactics in Europe are a load of toilet and Wenger merely sends them out to play. Stop painting some rosy landscape. 10 years and not even 1 CL.
  I also laughed at the ppl who said that the PL is the ‘most important trophy’. Joke. The PL is now a closed-shop competition. Only 2 teams can win that comp now and guess what Arsenal are not one of these 2. We know who the 2 are. Tonight in the CL we saw the team only 4th in the Italian Serie A, shit all over the PL Champions-elect. The CL is THE competiiton to win. Like Alan said. Every BIG club has one. Inter, Milan, Barca, ManU, Liverpool, Real, Ajax. Yes of course there are not-so-big sides that have fluked it or have one like Villa or Forest. But you will never be considered a big club without one. There are up to 10 different teams that can win the CL. Proof is there. No team has EVER retained the CL showing how hard it is to win. The PL can easily be retained by top teams like United. Wenger finds that one step too far sorry. Just cold facts. Wenger in 10 years has a record comparable to MONACO’S fux sake. One-off final. I could not agree more with Marcus. Wenger builds a team for 4 years only for the team to perform for one season. Good manager yes. But definitely not one of the top ones. It is when you see matches like tonight’s that you realize just how far behind the elite Afc are. Look at Milan. They stretch teams and have the best player in the world in Kaka. He was not bought for £50 mil he was signed for only £7m. He was a quality young player. Wenger used to sign top-drawer young players. But these days who we got? Cesc (who never scores). Diaby who is over-hyped (new Vieira my arse). Clichy who is woeful going forward..Senderos. Ha ha ha ha. Djourou ok-ish. The you look at the wayMilan stretch teams and get in behind them. Again Arsenal cannot perform the basics. Cannot defend corners, cannot attack corners. Cannot defend free-kicks and cannot take them hardly ever. Incompetent actually at defending corners and free-kicks. And look at Gilardino’s goal. Top finish. See any of our players doing that? I fully expect a load of shit apologists coming out with ‘Arsene knows’ and ‘our injuries’.
  Yeah course. Our legendary injuries. Injuries is the reason we’ve done sod all in Europe over the past 10 years. Also the reason we’ve never retained the league. Arsene agents. Pathetic. I’m not saying sack him. I am saying it is a joke how the guy is bigger than the cllub and even admits to feeling ‘no pressure’. Fancy that. 3 years with jack fuck. 10 years with naff all in Europe and you feel ‘no pressure’. And we won’t talk about Lauren, Vieira, Pires being released. Yeah suppose thats not Wenger’s fault eh? I think Marcu is bang on. Wenger has done great things. But he cannot take us to the next level. He should work as a scout and get Ramos of Seville or Rijkaard in there.

• 565. gunner4eva  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 pm

  yawnnnnn ……same old boring shit

• 566. A Fergie  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:03 pm

  Chris; That is how low our club has sunk. We cannot even talk about how brilliant our side is,

  Shit mate cant you tell it s a piss take on you and the rest of the hilarious doom merchants? But oh shit, I forgot gelbs couldnt tell it was a piss take either, could he?

• 567. A Fergie  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:07 pm

  HaaaaaaaaaHaaaaaaaHeeeeeeHeeHooooHooo!!!

• 568. mancgooner  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 pm

  Just dont get it, I need it explaining to me, right, so you’re saying you’re Arsenal fans yeah? Have I got that bit right? Yeah, and you like, absolutely fucking hate the club, manager, players and erm, by the looks of it, everyone else who dont agree with you on here as well? Am I right? Is that it? OK thanks, just needed it clearing up for me. So your point is?

• 569. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 pm

  What’s the betting next season Sunderland take points off us? I suppose as well, if United beat Shity and Arsenal only draw against the other cunts Sunday, The Emirates will be rocking. “Yeah we denied Chelsea a hatrick of titles. We couldn’t beat them, only drew with them at home.” Sad really. Adebayor says Chelsea is important right as it will prove how good will be next season? Well, if we lose Sunday, then obviously he’d have to admit we won’t win shit next season? Prick. Such a joke of a club. So much unrest and bullshit. Vieira coming out saying Henry is unsettled and might leave. Excuse me? MIGHT LEAVE? I could of sworn a player under contract should have no right to leave?

• 570. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 pm

  Arse fucking stinks as well. Smiley faces, eggs and beans for you

  ~x~

• 571. Paddy Vieira  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:19 pm

  Look, I didnt say whats bin reported, its bin badly translated. As if Id say something like that?

• 572. Bert  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 pm

  how would you know if the emirates is rocking gelbs you have never ever been there and will never ever go there but then why would you want to visit such a ‘joke club’ as you put it. then why would you want to post such crap on a ‘joke clubs’ blog either. dont make much sense does it. you never do though

• 573. Gelbs  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 pm

  Hence why I said “suppose”.

• 574. The Gimp  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 pm

  oi gelbs, cum on mate, u sed ud stand in for me tonight, those sadists at the s&m club wont whip themselves,

  not wen its sposeded to be u.

• 575. Marcus  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 pm

  Patrick Vieira has hinted Thierry Henry may quit Arsenal to “get the best for himself”.

  Former Gunners midfielder Vieira, who now plays for recently-crowned Serie A champions Inter Milan, believes his France team-mate will look at other options this summer after a below-par season at the Emirates Stadium.

  Henry has also had to deal with the departure of vice-president David Dein, a close ally of Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger.

  “Thierry is in the position where he is asking himself what he wants to do and I think it’s normal,” 30-year-old Vieira told PA Sport at a Ford ‘Feel Football’ event in Milan.

  “He has been at Arsenal a long time working with Dein and Wenger and he would consider his future

• 576. Marcus  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:33 pm

  Yeah and if Henry leaves he is a fucking traitor and a cunt of a captain. He tells us all ‘i’m fed up of the speculation. i love this club…i will finish my career at Arsenal’…then he fucks off? some leader he is. yeah. maybe ‘doom-mongering’ is boring. but lets take the apologists’ theme-tune instead then eh? yeah. lets all suck the team off and say this:
  a) oh…our INJURIES…
  b_ ‘we will sweep all before us next season’
  c) their goalie had a blinder
  d) we are so close to having a top team (that one makes me laugh)
  e) ‘teams that win trophies like l’pool are boeing. much rather have a team of wasters who play pretty 5-a-side’
  f) these are the good times (much-loved by amos)

• 577. Marcus  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 pm

  so many fucking apologists its sad.

• 578. Joe  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 pm

  nothing new to say mucus same old boring shit time after time after time

• 579. Marcus  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:42 pm

  you’re right Joe Blogs. nothing new to say cos this shit team has nothing new to offer. normal eh? or shall we hear the new shit like ‘arsene knows’? lol…

• 580. Harry  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:46 pm

  mucus save yourself some time on the keyboard just type your boring drivel once and then paste it every so often. youll feel better getting it off your chest and we all know not to bother reading it. but silly of me thats what you do already

• 581. Marcus  |  May 2nd, 2007 at 11:52 pm

  yeah course dirty Harry. muppet. ‘wenger knows’. yeah sure. knows how to break up a winning team…

• 582. Kem  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:13 am

  I predict we win the league next season, fail to retain it the next season, win our obligatory FA Cup, then do fuck all for years.

• 583. ey  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:44 am

  Marcus, you idiot, of course Vieira will say “henry may leave”. Inter want to buy Henry! Are you that much of a simpleton?

• 584. goooner1  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:07 am

  glory hunter talk:

  Arsenal are crap
  Arsene wenger is a shit manager
  Adebayor is useless

  Du glory hunters only started supporting arsenal when we started winning in style with wenger. Back in the day i remeber being cussed in the playground( pre man u glory hunter age) by liverpool supporters for being an arsenal fan, Every bloody day at playtime the same thingcussing tony adams for being a drunk donkey, cussing us for being a boring team cusing us for nayim from the halfway line, Liverpool bck den used to win jack shit but their history was enough
  Back then buying stefan swarzch was a big deal and he was shyte
  . Look now we have flippen THeirry henry loved all over the world, fabregas, van persie rosicky, gallas a new stadium, a new attacking philoshiphy, a plan to dominate soccer with limited funds that has had setbacks but is on the right track. but no some people would rather have george g as manger who used to buy helder and kiwomya was boring and won a few cups bck wen english soccer was astate and just waking up from eurpeon hibernation. get over urselves

• 585. disco dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:09 am

  RED DEVIL-TINTED BRIGADE

  You never factor in the fact that we have never had the money of any of these ‘big’ clubs with a European Cup.

• 586. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:35 am

  Bottom line, Mourinho, Feguson and Wenger all have one CL Final each. Mourinho played Monaco, Ferguson’s United got very lucky. According to Gelbs, our F.A Cup win in 2005 barely counts because we got lucky. Our Eindhoven defeat was the low point of the season and I have to question why we didn’t stick with 4-5-1 in Europe this year. But, last night, United proved that a lot of injuries will take their toll. If they’d lost Vidic, Ferdinand, Saha, Evra over xmas, there is no way they’d be top of the league. That said, even if we’d have had Gallas, Henry, RVP all season we wouldn’t be top, we’d be closer, but we wouldn’t be top. Patience my pretties.

• 587. Gelbs  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:35 am

  Did Porto spend millions then back in 2004?

• 588. Gelbs  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:39 am

  Actually LD. The reason I go on about our 2005 FA Cup Final is because it was our last honour. Man U didn’t deserve the CL in 1999. But who cares? They won the lot in 1999 at our expense as well and went on to win a hatrick of league titles. And 2005 we won on pens when we played “negatively” and never attacked at all. How ironic eh? Wenger and his players slam teams for these tactics when they play us and yet the pricks forget their last honour was purely by playing like that and riding on pure luck because Shite couldn’t finish us off.

• 589. Gelbs  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:41 am

  And I say the FA Cup doesn’t count is a figure of speech because the FA Cup isn’t a major honour like the league or CL is. In fact, most of Wengers honours are based on solitary FA Cup triumphs alone because he is so shit at retaining a title the following season.

• 590. Gelbs  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:44 am

  Well, not most of his triumphs. But the fact that 2 of Wenger’s title seasons were unique and rare in football and doubles, he only won one title alone and that was in 2004. 2003, blew league AGAIN and won an FA Cup against shit like Southampton. Almost blew that as well. Couldn’tfinish them off and had a shot cleared off line by Cunt Cole on 90 mins. 2005 was same story. Lost to Cunts at OT when we should of showed them who was the best. Instead we lose and ultimately, never recovered.

• 591. Gelbs  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:57 am

  Saying that though, we perhaps SHOULD of won the double in 1999, 2003 and definitiely 2004 and possibly 2005. But we didn’t lol.

• 592. Gelbs  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 7:09 am

  Question as well for apologists who say Wenger has to buy youth because we have no money to spend on provened, world-class players. What IF it came out today that Wenger has had around 60-80 million to spend since 2005 but chose just to sit on it and too scared to enter the market decently? I am so sure we have had quite alot of funds available. 60 million alone from season tickets should of been spent on decent players. Seeing as it was from paying fans. Most expensive ticket in the World lol. Cunts.

• 593. Derek  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 7:15 am

  why would ticket prices bother you gelbs you have never ever been to a game and will never ever go. yr opinion dont count

• 594. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 7:17 am

  To the guy who said that I couldn’t be more wrong. I beg to differ….

  On the subject of Uniteds Treble, the thing which hurt me most about that season is that we were so close to them that year. If Vivas hadn’t gone to sleep at Leeds we would have won the title. If Dennis had scored that penalty we’d have won the FA Cup. If If If. You need luck to win things, especially when it’s so tight.

  On the subject of RVP potentially getting 15 goals from midfield, I like the idea of him playing on the wing (In the same way as he does for Holland) but we tried that early in the season and it didn’t seem to work.

  Just a quick point which I will no doubt get stick for. I can’t stand Fergie but I have to give him credit fo his comments after the game last night. He admitted they lost to a far better team and that their performance deserved nothing better than they got. Contrast that to Moronho’s comments the night before! I can’t stand Fergie but you have to give credit where it’s due.

  Ronaldo was shown by Kaka last night that a ‘great’ player doesn’t need flicks and tricks to dominate a game with his talent. Good stuff.

• 595. Trevor  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 7:20 am

  in 20 years as manu manager fergie has managed one CL final and got lucky wenger has managed one final and didnt get the luck fergie had whats the difference really

• 596. Amos  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 7:27 am

  Playing RvP wide left in a 4-5-1 doesn’t work. We tried it earlier in the season and he is wasted out there. RvP has much more success on the right of a front pair. With Holland he plays either on the right of a front two or slightly wider in a 4-3-3 system.

• 597. Amos  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 7:37 am

  “What IF it came out today that Wenger has had around 60-80 million to spend since 2005 but chose just to sit on it and too scared to enter the market decently? I am so sure we have had quite alot of funds available.”

  Gelbs your speculation about finances is silly. The accounts are a matter of public record. Arsenal made a loss of £6.2m in the 6 months to 30-11-06. They spent £21.4m refinancing the debt. Income is rising as a result of the new stadium but that is in front of us. If you had taken the trouble to check the facts you wouldn’t make such nonsensical posts.

• 598. Adam Sandler  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 7:40 am

  actually Arsenal do need some revamping cause even the most faithful supporter will have to admit that will our current crop we will nv win anytihng despite the potential they hold. Hleb, Ljungberg, Rosisky, DIaby, Denison, Clichy, Eboue and Lehmann, seriously i don think we can do with this bunch. However talented they lack the steel, determination and strength to cope with pressure. The one touch fast passing is gone. When i saw AC yesterday played i reminisce the time where we pass with so much conviction. The truth is Henry will nv be the same player he used to be, RVP will perform consistently and Ade enough said, The current players also lack the hunger we have seen from Chelsea and Manchester United. Fabregas is so right when he mention the attitude in our camp. And for so long Wenger has been right, he is going down into pit hole. I hate to admit but he can’t compete with Ferguson or Mourinho. He is clueless on who to get this summer and if he keep tinkering on unearthing any gem this will be catastrophe. WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE YOUNGSTERS. As mentioned, is pathetic to tease at our rival failure to progress to the final cause despite their loss their season is not yet over. ARSENAL SEASON IS LONG GONE.

• 599. Adam Sandler  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 7:47 am

  Lot of whining to be done. But trust me, I have always defended Arsenal but is appaling the rate we are deteriorating. Our Emirates staduim is nowwhere near the prestige HIghbury was. The stadium lack atmosphere and cutting edge. Maybe is the name Emirates that make it look awfuls, but it really guts me to see the amount Arsene wanted this staduim to go on and doom it. The stands are too far from the goal post. The supporters can’t get turn on. The pitch is far too big. I know some of the optmistic ppl will come forward and slate me badly, but as all the negative comments around here, they make sense. Lets stop living in denial and face the fact. IT HAS BEEN HELL SINCE FEBRUARY

• 600. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 7:59 am

  600!!! what a way to start the day!!!

• 601. Amos  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:00 am

  “that will our current crop we will nv win anytihng despite the potential they hold.”

  If they will never win anything what is the potential they hold? Either they have the potential to win something or not. If they will never win anything then they can’t have potential can they? You can’t have it both ways.

• 602. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 am

  Steady on Adam, I’ve had much worse seasons than this as an Arsenal fan and I’m sure many people on here will have as well. This season has only been bad cos we’ve been spoiled in the last ten years. The key word is perspective. I don’t think we’re in denial, just that some of us have retained some sense of ‘perspective’.

  Has this season been all we’d wish for? Hell no.

  Has it been disappointing and well below the standards we’d expect? Yes

  Is it ‘hell’? No.

  Has there been some great moments? Yes.

  The stadium will gain the prestige and will become our ‘home’ in due course. It’s one of the best stadiums in Europe (And I’d say it is cutting edge), you mentioned the fact the stands are too far from the goal. Well, to fit 60000 people in they can’t all be right next to the pitch! The Dell was a stadium that was really tight and close to the pitch, but they fitted a fraction of our attendance in it!

  I wouldn’t blame the stadium for the lack of atmostphere, the end of the Man Utd game showed that if the crowd are up for it it can feel electric in there. Also, opposition fans called Highbury ‘The Library’, the problem aint the stadium.

• 603. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:18 am

  i think thats one of our main problems (although it cant be helped) is that we have to rely to much on youth and potential, out of our current squad i’d only have henry, cesc, toure and gallas down as players who are in their prime (even though cesc is only 19) and who have nothing to do to prove themselves as top top players, with the rest of the players we are waiting on them proving their potential, so in all thats 7 players. if we can get 2 more experienced players in for the summer that would shift the balance over to the experience which whilst it wont gaurentee success it will give us a far stronger chance next season.

  end of the day i’d still much rather do it wengers way than have some other muppet come in and spend shit loads on players, only to fail, and then fuck off and leave us up the creak without a paddle so to speak.

  not sure if i explained that well but i know what im talking about!!!

• 604. Dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 am

  I think Vieira is simply a little bit sour because the club booted him out and Cesc became an instant success. But claiming that Henry might leave is exactly the problem we have today, namely football players not honouring their contracts. Think of that cunt Reyes too who signed a 6 year extension and afterwards decided that he can’t live in England anymore. If it’s true that half of the team quit in case of Wenger leaving the club, then I really think we have a lot of pussies out there. It seems like Wenger is their dad and they can’t live without him. Pathetic.

• 605. Block 8 Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:05 am

  A QUESTION FOR GELBS.

  We’ve all listened to you spout on constantly about Wengers failings and your annoyance that he won’t spend big in the transfer market.

  You dont ever go to games do you? So what gives you the right to demand Wenger blows huge amounts of cash that he may or may not have when you dont even invest any of your own cash in the club.

  Fans that go to the games and stump up their hard earned cash to support the club have the right to wonder how their money is spent but mugs like you who follow the club via match of the day and the Sun should keep your opinions to yourself.

  Slag off his tactics and players all you want but dont tell him how to spend money you’ve played no part in giving him.

• 606. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:23 am

  so eh, how r all my fans today?

  im still drunk from last nite & i intend in talking shite mostly. if u dont like it u can go & fuck yourself, mates.

  also i predicted pool milan final, even tho they both had a deficit. this proves my greatness, my pretties

  gelbs why did u put x’s that time milan scored the second?????

• 607. ron burgendy  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:24 am

  im kinda a big deal

• 608. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:25 am

  Block 8 Gooner,
  Gelbs wont answer you, he’s at work / school.
  Dont really agree with what you say about “only people who go to games have a right to question how its spent” - due to where i live i’d need to be a lottery winner (a rollover one at that) to afford to go and see them but i still buy the shirts every season. talking of shirts is anyone having problems with the red one - where it says ‘fly emirates’ mine’s starting to peel…

• 609. Amos  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:26 am

  It’s Cescs birthday tomorrow. He officially leaves his teen years behind him and reaches the grand old age of 20.

  For those worried about the kids in the team it is worth noting that they don’t stay kids and by the time next season ends Denilson and Bendtner will be 20, Cesc & Djouro 21, Diaby 22, Clichy, Hoyte & Sendoros 23, Ade & Eboue 24, RvP 25, Hleb & Toure 27, Rosicky 28, Gallas & Thierry 30 and Freddie 31. Still a young side overall but a maturing and hopefully more experienced one.

• 610. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:30 am

  thanks amos & i thought footballers didnt age the same as the rest of us…

• 611. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:32 am

  was it gunner8 that said that if u dont go to games your opinion doesnt count?

  you are a complete & utter fucking stupid bastard

• 612. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:39 am

  Tubes-Are you serious about your shirt? Cos there was an issue with some shirts and I think they were recalled or something

• 613. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:54 am

  fuck sake someone post so that i can disagree with them

  my head is spinning, must not drink so much on weekdays

• 614. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:02 am

  And welcome back to the great Arsenal quiz of 2007. First in the hotseat is Ron…Ron is a 26 year old angry loner from N Ireland…your first question is coming up Ron…Let’s have 30 seconds on the clock…Start the clock!

  Against who did Ian Wright score his first ever goal for Arsenal and what was the final score?

• 615. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:08 am

  I’m sorry Ron…your time is up and I have to take your first answer…which was ‘Basil Fawlty’…I can’t accept that I’m afraid.

• 616. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:10 am

  v Leicester City in the League cup, 1-1?

  he scored a hattrick in his first league game, against soton at the dell 4-0

• 617. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:14 am

  im brilliant, where the fuck is everyone?

• 618. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:19 am

  No idea mate. Marcus and Kem are at school though. They’ll be here at about half 3 or 4 as usual. Guess every one is actually working, weird.

• 619. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:20 am

  FG,
  i noticed my shirt about 2 weeks ago and now it looks hideous i was gonna accept it but then i looked at my old dreamcast one and that still looks brand new. i didn’t know some had been re-called.

  Ron,
  im over here you blind cunt.

• 620. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:21 am

  im not working, im eating.

• 621. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:23 am

  FG

  He scored his final goal for Arsenal on January 6, 1998 in a League Cup quarter-final victory against West Ham United at Upton Park.

• 622. gary  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:24 am

  tubes please dont speak with your mouth full.

• 623. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:26 am

  i know i just spat crumbs all over the keyboard… quite suprised i remembered the silent ‘B’ in crumbs

• 624. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:27 am

  And his 100th against……………………at Highbury when we lost 2-1???

• 625. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:28 am

  Gary, please use capital letters.

  Have you no respect for the English writing thingy?

• 626. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:29 am

  http://arseblog.com/columns/2007/05/02/still-it-could-be-worse/

  thats quite funny.

• 627. GARY  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:30 am

  SORRY RON I TOOK MY LEAD FROM YOUR POST 613

• 628. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:33 am

  do you think if GS stays away till sat / sun that we’ll hit 1000 guns?

• 629. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:36 am

  tubes if i get that i’ll be legend…

• 630. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:38 am

  its a big IF though ron, espeically as if it falls on a saturday or a sunday as your not on here those days. it will be mine.

• 631. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:39 am

  The page will start taking ages to refresh each time if we do get to 1000 guns.

• 632. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:43 am

  good point tubby, so i have got til friday 4.30…

  must make a few pointless posts then……

• 633. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:44 am

  i know its already slowing down, unless thats my computers fault.

  fuck its quiet today.

  FG, have you lived in the falklands all your life?

• 634. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 am

  ron, i dont think anyone will mind a few pointless posts as its not like you do it all the time is it.

• 635. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:47 am

  Till I was 17/18 and since then I’ve lived off and on between there and the UK cos of college/Uni/work.

• 636. *_Respect Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:53 am

  Falklands just a quick mention on your idea of playing RVP on the wing: RVP actually doesn’t really play on the wing for Holland - he plays on the right-side of a 4-3-3, which completely alters the way he plays. Playing in right or left midfield would mean he has to come from much deeper to get the ball. However, playing from either side of a 4-3-3, means he is far closer to goals and can instantly unleash one of his thunder-drives…I don’t think he would workout on the wing mind….

  Also on your point on Fergie after last night’s game FG: I couldn’t agree more. He was honest and gracious in defeat. Actually, I could imagine Arsene’s interview after a 3-0 pasting at the San Siro:
  “These boys are lions and they are taking off…we played fantastically and I like the potential I am seeing in the team. We controlled the game and were a little unlucky…” (kidding!)

  Amos: on the point about the potential, actually I think it is possible to have kids with potential, who are not actually going to win anything. They have excellent individual potential but as a collective, I frankly cannot see it coming together. Gazzap was accurate in his assessment when, he said that the midfield we have is never going to win you a Champs League medal. (I’ve sort of given up on the Prem, the teams who spend the most and with the strongest squads win that - we aren’t in the mix).

  I really do not know what the solution is to Arsenal’s problems…I mean we’re not as bad as some people make us out to be - on the other hand, our profligacy, set-piece defending, and this apparent lack of a will to win is costing us dear…

• 637. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:01 am

  RH-You’re right about RVP’s position for Holland, I stand corrected, someone else pointed that out as well. Part of the reason I liked the idea of RVP playing a little deeper is cos he is one player who will have a crack at goal from anywhere. You’re right though, wide on the right of a front three would work (I’d suggest the left as he’s left footed but a)That’s Thierrys place and b) He looks good on the right for Holland. Not sure I can imagine us playing a three up front although Thierry on the left, Ade in the middle and RVP on the right is an interesting notion.

  Can’t wait to see him back in action again, we’ve missed him badly.

  I agree that Wenger wouldn’t have been so gracious after losing to AC by that score, although Fergie did emphasize the youth in their team as well.

• 638. Amos  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:05 am

  Respects - the issue of potential I responded to was concerning a group. I suppose it is possible to realise potential as an individual and not as a group but someone earlier had posted that the ‘current crop had potential’ but would never win anything. In that case potential for what?

  I think it is too early to give up on this group though I accept that it needs to strengthen. That depends on the existing group realising its potential and strengthening where and when we can. In any case winning the CL medal isn’t entirely dependent on the having the best midfield. As someone else pointed out the best teams in Europe won’t feature in the final this year and in fact, apart from Barca last year, haven’t done so for a while now.

• 639. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:05 am

  some good points RH but i strongly disagree with your opinion of who spends the most wins the prem & we do have a strong squad

• 640. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 am

  im gonna post a joke of the day, so anyone who gets offended by jokes appearing on a football related blog should just skip past my next post….
  p.s ron are you still drunk?

• 641. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:14 am

  George Phillips of Meridian, Mississippi was going up to bed when his wife told him that he’d left the light on in the garden shed, which she could see from the bedroom window. George opened the back door to go turn off the light, but saw that there were people in the shed stealing things. He phoned the police, who asked “Is someone in your house?” and he said “no”.
  Then they said that all patrols were busy, and that he should simply lock his door and an officer would be along when available. George said, “Okay,” hung up, counted to 30, and phoned the police again. “Hello, I just called you a few seconds ago because there were people in my shed. Well, you don’t have to worry about them now cause I’ve just shot them all.” Then he hung up. Within five minutes three police cars, an Armed Response unit, and an ambulance showed up at the Phillips residence and
  caught the burglars red-handed. One of the Policemen said to George: “I thought you said that you’d shot them!” George said, “I thought you said there was nobody available!”

• 642. *_Respect Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:15 am

  FG I have always maintained that I reckon that, when facing defensive teams at home who will no come out, that we should deploy a 4-3-3 with Henry on the left, RVP on the right-side, and Bendtner in the middle, as he is a classic poacher that can actually play football.

  Some other points:
  1) How budget was Fat Frank on Tuesday?
  2) Can you actually believe that Wenger had Kaka in the bag, only to pull the plug on the deal?
  3) Kaka is possibly the best player in Europe right now - way better than C. Ronaldo
  4) Last night shows you how overrated the Prem is. To think that ManUre have hardly lost a game all season (twice to us…once to West Ham and…) - now think to how easily the 4th-best team in Italy ran riot against them.
  5) Also shows that in terms of tactics, the top 4 aside, the Prem is a piece of piss. Of course C. Ronaldo looks like Zico every week, Boothroyd and Jewell and Allardyce do not possess the tactical guile to stop him. How easily did Milan stop him yesterday?
  6) I would still sign Seedorf
  7) Who do you want to win the final? Milan should not even be in Europe this season, as they were first kicked out, and then after being re-instated, were supposed to be in the UEFA Cup. Because Empoli’s stadium did not meet Champs League criteria, Milan got the place instead. Liverpool are perfect paint-drying substitutes and sleep promoters…Milan play great football though, gotta say
  If Eto’o comes, surely he would have to play up-front with Thierry, with Rosicky just behind?
  9) Wenger needs to get more experience in the summer
  10) Looks like we’ve already missed out on two transfer targets: Luca Toni has signed for Bayern and K-J Huntelaar looks as though he’s about to sign for Juve.

  Please tell me we sign 3 brilliant players this summer….

• 643. Welling Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:16 am

  Tubes, - There is a problem with a batch of shirts. There was something on Arsenal.con a couple of weeks ago - dunno if it’s still on there now. My littuns had the same problem and I got it changed at the shop.

• 644. *_Respect Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:22 am

  Amos: fair point on that one. I see what you mean on the whole potential issue, and you’re probably right, it would be counter-productive to give up on these lot now. But seriously though Amos, and truthfully….can you actually see this midfield working? I think playing Diaby and Gilberto together could work well, as they are 2 ‘destroyers’. But the balance of our midfield is all wrong - and of the young players, Cesc is class, Denilson looks fantastic and Diaby looks good….but again - they needs experience alongside them. They really do need guidance and I personally feel they can grow to become brilliant individual players, but as a collective I very much doubt they will function.

  Ron: good point on the league but let me explain. I think sure, it is possible for say, us, to win the Prem in an off-season. We could win it in 2 seasons’ time I think. But realistically, we could never dominate the way United and the Chavs have, and I really think it has to do with money.
  I truly think that Wenger’s biggest mistake was not strengthening after we won the 2002 double - one extra quality player, and the league was ours again.
  In this day and age however, it’s been shown that with this Arsenal squad all it takes are 2 key injuries, and the whole team is effectively decimated. RVP and Henry gone, and the arduous search for a goal begins…

• 645. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:29 am

  FG - this formation could be the solution next season:

  ________Lehman________

  Eboue__Toure__Gallas__Clichy

  _________Gilberto_________

  ___Fabregas______Diaby____

  _________Rosicky_________
  v. Persie___________Henry

  This gives the opportunity for Henry and RVP to use their pace and power to stretch defenders, allowing space through the middle for Rosicky and/or Fab4/Diaby to arrive late in the box. The full-backs can also push forward at the right moments to provide width on the overlap and in these instances Gilberto can drop into the defence to make up the numbers.
  I reckon this formation would also provide Rosicky the freedom he needs to be able to roam behind the front two and provide killer passes and long range efforts.
  Obviously this formatiom may need to be altered against certain teams, but it would provide the pace out wide that a lot of people think we need. I also think it would enable us to impose our own game (as it was a couple of years ago) on the opposition (quick passing and movement, getting the ball forward quickly).

• 646. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:31 am

  OK RH- Here goes!

  1) Fat Frank is the most over rated player of the last ten years, he was dire the other night, which did not surprise me in the least. I was gutted Reina didn’t get his penalty though.
  2) Is that true about Kaka? Any idea why we pulled out of the deal?
  3) I agree that Kaka is better than Ronaldo, as I said earlier he showed you don’t need to use flicks and tricks to run a game.
  4) I actually think that last night showed how much above themselves Utd have played this year, I’ve been saying all along that Utd have some very weak links in their team, eg Fletcher which I’ve been amazed haven’t been exposed so far. They’re deservedly top of the league but player for player I don’t think they’re the best team. Milan were just better in every department. It’s impressive to think that Celtic went there and got a 0-0 in normal time with the right tactics. Fergie got it all wrong tactically, Milan made it look easy. If we was Wenger he’d be getting crucified on this board this morning.
  6) Seedorf is still a great player but he’d be a short term signing and I’m not sure how he’d cope with the pace of the English game two or three times a week.
  7) I actually want Milan to win it, it’d be a victory for real football.
  Etoo would be a good signing (For the right fee), I think he in the middle with Thierry and RVP out wide would be tasty. It took Wenger about 7 years to change from a 442 to a 451 though so it might be a while before he tries another formation!
  9) Wenger needs to get more experience in the summer-agreed

• 647. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:33 am

  RH im not sure about u said about the prem not being as good…

  just cos milan (who are 3rd, not 4th) stuffed utd isnt as fair basis for that opinion, sure utd had key injuries, physically wrecked…

  milan were able to rest players…

  i havent seen that much of kaka, but ronaldo has been lethal this year

• 648. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:35 am

  How the hell did I do that sunglasses thing?????? LOL

• 649. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:35 am

  Amos, my point about 4-5-1 in Europe was that it worked, if RVP or TH can’t fit into it, they should be dropped, simple as that. RVP played a lone striker role at Bolton last season and was excellent, he can hold the ball up and adhere to the demands of the role. It’s just not a coincidence that our one sojourn to the final coincided with us adopting a slightly more cautious approach. We have to try it again and if heads have to roll, I’ll live with that just fine. Gelbs, my point to you is that if you were a Manc fan (I know, I know, but hear me out), you would likely be on the Manc board saying, “oh Fergie only got us to one final and we played shite, one in twenty years lmfao, pathetic. Fergie’s never done an unbeaten season has he? Even Wenger managed that and he’s not got half the money Fergie has- and he wouldn’t waste it on shit like Veron, Kleberson, Djemba Djemba and Smith pmsl. How long’s it been since we won the league? Four years! lol, rubbish.” Or if you were a Chelsea fan…”£500m and we’re gonna win the league cup, which we only won by beating a bunch of kids anyway, lmfao. Even if we win the F.A Cup it’ll be shit for the money we’ve spent. The special one? Cunt. Can’t even beat Pool lol.” Or if you were a Pool fan, “fair enough, we’ve got a bit lucky in a couple of cup competitions, but we do shit all in the elague, that’s where your judged. Wasting money on shit like Bellamy, Crouch and Paletta and all that average Spanish shit. A clb like us celebrating third place like we’ve won the league pmsl. I guess we’ve got to face we’re not a big club, lmfao.”

• 650. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:35 am

  Respect - Do you really think we have a realistic chance of signing Eto’o? What is his contract situation (i.e. does he only have 1 - 1.5 years left?), otherwise surely we will struggle to pay the money that Barca will demand. Also, unless the player has a huge desire to play for Arsenal above others, how can we compete financially with other interested parties?

  Shame about Huntelaar - I bet Juve will get him for around 8 million as well, which will prove to be a bargin! Does this mean Trezuguet is surplus to requirements??

• 651. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:36 am

  mavis your formation has no wingers, which we need to draw defenders apart to create space in the box

  thats our problem this year, it allows teams to clog the box

• 652. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:39 am

  Oh and as for the Liverpool, Chelsea game. Wtf did Gerrard and Lampard actually do in that game? Both were completely anonymous. Mikel, Mascherano and Makelele duked it out in the centre, those two were innocent bystanders.

• 653. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:44 am

  LD-Great post. You actually even wrote the comments perfectly in his style!
  I started to read Marcus/Kem/Chris’ comments from last night I was so bored earlier but had to stop cos I was starting to get annoyed and they don’t deserve to get a reaction. Seriously, what is the point of posting the same rant every day? Are they on other Arsenal blogs as well or is it just this one?

• 654. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 am

  Ron - Henry and Rvp drift wide, attacking the full back areas, which keeps them occupied, allowing late runners to arrive in the box.
  Of course it doesn’t have to be limited to this ploy - the full backs can overlap the midfield and get balls in from wide areas as well.
  It would have to be based on every player knowing their job and the strikers knowing the best times to be pulling out wide or staying centrally. It might take a bit of practice!!

• 655. russian gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:45 am

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• 656. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:46 am

  LD - LMFAO, LOL, PMSL!!

• 657. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:47 am

  Trezuguet is shit!!! id take Zlatan Ibrahimovic tho

• 658. russian gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:48 am

  the line that means the blog is shut for today–too many entries.
  defy that and u will answer to the Kremlin

• 659. russian gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:50 am

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• 660. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:50 am

  fuck u Kremlin

• 661. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:51 am

  Mavis-That formation of yours looks great in theory.

• 662. russian gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 am

  Arrrghhhhh! Ron - ronald reagan? U piece of polygamous shit, we will bomb u in ur grave. & since when did yankees know anything abt soccer, eh?

• 663. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:52 am

  But in practice…!?!

• 664. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:53 am

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/results/default.stm

  from the above site i just worked out that if you took rooney and ronaldo out of man u and fat frank and drogba out of chelsea for the whole season it would be like this:

  chelsea would be 22 points worse off
  man u would be 15 points worse off

  now i know thats taking the players away for the whole season but it goes to show how having your top 2 goal scorers fit for the season is so important.
  fuck that took me ages, i need to lay down.
  P.S you’s better of appreicated that!!!

• 665. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:55 am

  http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=464606&CPID=8&clid=43&lid=2&title=Dabo+recounts+Barton+bust-up&channel=football_home&

  fuck in hell…

• 666. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:56 am

  Amos, apologies, I just realised you were responding to another post. I’m too f****g busy, my brain is mush.

• 667. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 am

  Comment 666! That is quite a landmark. I am the dark overlord, all will smoke crack in deference to my greatness.

• 668. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 am

  LD u r also the devil… 666

• 669. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 am

  lol, could go either way! I would like to see us try it against one of the weaker teams or pre season. It would expose our full backs (Who have come in for criticism this season already) a bit more on the flanks and it requires a hell of a lot of work from Fab and Diaby to cover the ground, but it does offer us more options going forward.

• 670. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am

  LD,
  post 649 - the kippers knickers mate.

• 671. russian gooners  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:59 am

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• 672. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:01 pm

  FG - against stronger teams or where we are ‘under the cosh’, this can be transformed into a 4-4-2, with Diaby left (not ideal) and Rosicky right midfield. Or even a 4-5-1 with Henry up on his own.

• 673. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 pm

  so our last game at the emirates on sunday, i really hope we kick their arses, they should be tired & we are due a big win so i think we will hit 4 past them…

  yeah yeah, but you will see

  rons nose

• 674. *_Respect Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 pm

  Ron: I know fair point. But although we could not base the result of last night as conclusive proof of the said inferiority of the Prem, you have to admit that it is worrying to see just how easily and tactically overrun the Mancs were last night. No?
  And Ron believe me…although Ronaldo has been great this year, Kaka has more Champs league goals than our whole team got in this year’s competition: 10 in 12 matches. Ridiculous. And he’s not even a striker….

  FG: Brilliant! Fat Frank is a bottler of the highest order. I also really wanted Reina to save his penalty - his ‘performance’ all night was abhorrent. Every set-piece was wasted, his delivery was piss-poor and he contributed nothing in midfield. No tackling, no slick passing…and as for Ca$hley…On Kaka actually I was reading a post from Alan yesterday and I asked a friend of mine who is actually a crazy Corinthians fan about the whole Kaka thing. It seems that apparently, its true. You know how Wenger has the low-down on every quality young player in world football anyway….so anyway, my mate informs me that the reason the Kaka deal never went through was because a fee had been agreed, but apparently Wenger was not happy about an extra £1.5 million bonus payment clause in the deal. Seems a little silly now does it not?! How good is he?

  Mavis: I really liked your formation. I think it’s very good and playing Rosicky in the hole is a super idea but one problem: no natural width. And on Eto’o, I truly think he does want to join Mavis. Thats is my gut instinct anyway. Whether he will though, is quite something else. He is no doubt a trouble-maker, but I think he has already claimed how much he would enjoy working with Wenger, and I think it would do us no harm to have another player speak out when certain players are not pulling their weight. Think it all depends on whether Barca accept Reyes, Ljungberg and Gilberto…

  Little D.: Thank you for bringing up Gerrard’s name too. What the hell did he do on Wednesday night? His invisible man impersonation was mighty good though…So over-hyped it is untrue.

  P.S Is it wrong of me to bring some grapefruits, melons, oranges, kiwis, brocollis, carrots and turnips to the game next week? I am planning on making Ca$hley Cunt a nice little ‘fruit and veg compote’ (i.e. chuck some carrots at the donkey)
  And how poor has his game become since he joined the Chavs? Regresses spectacularly. From brilliant ball-playing left-back to hoofmeister…Shows how limited Mourinho’s management is that, even with the world’s most expensive squad at his disposal, he remains unable to play expansive football. He continues to pay billions to play one-dimensional long-ball, completely bypassing midfield. Pathetic. And people want to slate Wenger…

• 675. *_Respect Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 pm

  * By the way, the fruit compote is intended for the game on Sunday…childish I know….

• 676. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:13 pm

  i think cole wont even play, bridge will

  i know things

• 677. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:13 pm

  Cashley gets to the half way line and plays that same diagonal ball up to Drogba every time. What happened to the marauding runs down the left, the quick 1-2’s, etc?
  I do so hope they win nothing else this season. “This is what I came to Chelsea for..” Yeah, you proudly display that carling cup medal, sphincter boy. Having said that, that means Utd winning the double! Arrrghh!

• 678. russian gooners  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 pm

  i know things @676

  where r ur manners?

• 679. manc r cunts  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:18 pm

  Sir Alex Ferguson has fiercely criticised the Premier League for failing to aid Manchester United in their Champions League quest.

  He does not believe the Premier League, who rejected a request to push Saturday’s Manchester derby back by 24 hours, have helped them.

• 680. manc r cunts  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:21 pm

  Former England manager Sven-Goran Eriksson is prepared to take a ‘big job’ in the Premiership despite the criticism he received when he was in charge of the national team.

  Asked if he would be prepared to endure the same public scrutiny of his private life he suffered in charge of England and take charge of an English club, Eriksson told Talksport: ‘I’m very stubborn, I will take a good job wherever it is, even if it is in England.

  ‘I hope to be back in football next season because I love football. Yes, I would take a big job wherever - I wouldn’t say I was fed up but I’m a little bit bored.’

• 681. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:23 pm

  Ron, did you know that Bridge is out for the rest of the season?

• 682. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:25 pm

  Ron is omniscient.

• 683. manc r cunts  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:25 pm

  AC Milan midfielder Kaka is relishing the opportunity to avenge the 2005 Champions League final defeat against Liverpool

• 684. dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 pm

  Ron is impotent

• 685. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 pm

  You must be disappointed dave.

• 686. dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:31 pm

  mavis = a cock craver!!

• 687. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:36 pm

  what’s wrong with craving a bit of schlong?

• 688. Blog Head  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:44 pm

  Mavis,

  Nothing, dont listen to these peasants

• 689. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:45 pm

  Little D, bridge is not injured. i went & checked & everything!!

  you are incorrect. my respect for you has diminished.

• 690. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:51 pm

  Bridge needs surgery which he has been postponing due to their ‘injury crisis’, whether he now chooses to have it cos they’ve just go the FA Cup left is the question.
  I’m sure Cole will play, he’ll really want to and Mourinho will need him.

• 691. dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:54 pm

  so now afc fans are fags. Blog head is a tit from spud land, but MAVIS!!!!

  u wont get off that easy so take this: - u r a disgusting loose cunt that drips everytime a schlong passes by! u sleep with lame chicken and decorate all ur birthday parties with condom baloons. i bet u r the stupid nitwit that runs naked across the pitch in the hope of getting the ball kicked hard right into ur rotten arsehole. FAG

• 692. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:55 pm

  this is a fucking brilliant question!!

  An international player scored ten goals in his native country before being signed by a top Premiership side, but only netted once after his arrival. He was then sold on to another European side where he failed to score at all (although he did get one for his country during his spell at this club) before being purchased by a different Premiership side where he only managed to find the net once. He was then off-loaded to his third English side, where he failed to score at all. who is it?

  top marks for anyone who gets it right

• 693. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 12:56 pm

  im away for lunch i’ll give u the answer at 1.45

• 694. Dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:05 pm

  Berbatov scored as many goals as Thierry so far this season despite Titi hardly playing at all.

• 695. Amos  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:07 pm

  Respects - I think the midfield does work now if you are measuring it on amount of possession and chances created. It doesn’t work well enough in terms of goals contributed and possibly defensively in the ability to pick up opposing midfielders or defenders breaking into our box or in set piece situations but I don’t see why we can’t improve enough in these aspects for the midfield to be a formidable one. I am not sure that we have anyone completely comfortable playing wide left and perhaps that is something we need to look at but I think the squad is good enough to cope with that.

  On another point I agree with Little Dutch that 4-5-1 did work in Europe and in certain premiership games (notably ManU). I don’t think we get the best out of RvP wide left but sure he can fit into the system in other areas. We started the season playing 4-5-1 in every game and clearly it didn’t suit every opposition especially in the prem home games. Then we seemed to drop it completely in favour of 4-4-2 but I don’t understand why we cannot deploy both systems as and when the opposition demands it. It needn’t be only one or the other for me.

• 696. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:10 pm

  dave (if that’s your real name). admit it, you fancy me….

• 697. dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:23 pm

  am vomiting Mavis. u r sick

• 698. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:30 pm

  Dave - are you sick at the realisation that the thought of a bit of bum love makes you hard?
  Don’t worry, there’s nothing to fear (except a sore rim). I bet I could teach you a few trick if you’ll let me.. xx

• 699. imbecile  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:33 pm

  @692 Ron i know the answer! i know the answer!
  Must be Jens Lehmann! He’s a good stiker but never scores. who else? that was easy mate

• 700. dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:34 pm

  ok mavis

• 701. dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:35 pm

  and 700 guns waiting for ur ass!

• 702. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:42 pm

  ok i assume the reason noone guessed is because there on their lunch so i wont give the answer just yet

• 703. imbecile  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:44 pm

  Ron, post 699, pliz, pliz man

• 704. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:46 pm

  Ron, are they still at the other English club now?

• 705. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:47 pm

  Not that knowing that will bring me any closer to the answer. I just didn’t want you to think you were being ignored..

• 706. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:49 pm

  no, he has now retired

  imbecile no its not jens!!

• 707. imbecile  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:49 pm

  stupid boy

• 708. imbecile  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:54 pm

  imbecile no its not jens!!

  sob, sob, sob!!

• 709. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 1:58 pm

  I was gonna guess Kaba Diawara but can’t remember his record for us, didn’t think he’d scored… but knew he’d played for Blackburn and West Ham after us…

• 710. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:00 pm

  Fuck knows Ron! Put us out of our misery. Surely it can’t be a striker with that record though (Robert Rosario didn’t play abroad).

• 711. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:00 pm

  nope

• 712. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:00 pm

  We don’t know how many games he got though…

• 713. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:02 pm

  Diawara couldnt hav played for France

• 714. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:02 pm

  so not only did i get all your questions correct but i also asked a question that noone can answer

  i think i may take over from tony blair at the end of the month…

• 715. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:04 pm

  he played nearly every game while at the club

• 716. judge  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:06 pm

  Ron = proud cunt that stinks from 2 miles off

• 717. Ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:06 pm

  do yous want the answer?

• 718. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:10 pm

  you’ve probably forgotten who it was by now..

• 719. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:15 pm

  CNM-I thought he might have played for Guinea or somewhere.

• 720. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:20 pm

  The answer to the question is Peter Schmeichel.

  I have another question, what player played the most amount of games at the old wembley?

• 721. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:24 pm

  Nice one Ron!

• 722. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:25 pm

  Teams or player??

• 723. Paul  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:25 pm

  #720 Tony Adams

• 724. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:27 pm

  Great question by the way Ron. Nice one.

• 725. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:28 pm

  Sorry, just reread the question….I’m a dumbass.

• 726. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:31 pm

  Peter Shilton?

• 727. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:32 pm

  tony adams is correct

• 728. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:37 pm

  Who scored the last ever England goal at Wembley??

• 729. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:43 pm

  tony adams again

• 730. Blog Head  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:47 pm

  Who once scored at wembley for England and Holland in the same match?

• 731. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:47 pm

  Yes indeedy. Ok, a harder one, in what country did Ian Wright score his 98 and 99th goal for Arsenal?

• 732. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:47 pm

  who scored the last competitive england goal at the old wembley?

• 733. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:49 pm

  France - vs’ Auxerre?

• 734. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:49 pm

  Who scored the winner in the 87 FA Cup Final Bloggie???

• 735. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:50 pm

  No Mavis…

• 736. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:50 pm

  bloghead - Darius Vassell?

• 737. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:50 pm

  bloggie - Stuart Pierce?

  It seems I’m not very good at these, so it’s probably wrong!

• 738. Blog Head  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:50 pm

  James,

  Gary Mabbutt

• 739. Blog Head  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:51 pm

  Nope - look a bit closer to home

• 740. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:54 pm

  BH - david platt?

• 741. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:54 pm

  Bloggie - Adams again!?

• 742. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:54 pm

  It was our own dear Tone.

• 743. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:55 pm

  That’s why I asked the Mabbut question..

• 744. Blog Head  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:56 pm

  Who once got so pissed they got caught on Islington high st shagging a post box and shouting “Go on Dixon !!!, Go on my son !!!!” ?

• 745. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:57 pm

  I’m spiteful like that..

• 746. Blog Head  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 2:57 pm

  James - Touche

• 747. Tubes  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:17 pm

  where’s geekov today?

• 748. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:17 pm

  Who has scored in a Manchester derby a Merseyside derby and a Glasgow derby?

• 749. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:27 pm

  Kanchelskis?

• 750. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:29 pm

  Oooh, good guess even if that isn’t right Mavis.

• 751. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:30 pm

  roy keane?

• 752. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:33 pm

  Roy Keane never played for Everton or Liverpool.

• 753. Dave  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:36 pm

  Go to the Chelski website and vote for Wayne Bridge being the player of the year! It’s a massive Arsenal supporters action to humiliate that Cashley bastard. I have already given Bridgey my vote.

• 754. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:41 pm

  It was Kanchelskis Mavis. well played.

• 755. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:44 pm

  Which 2 players have played in Merseyside, London, North East and Milan derbies?

• 756. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:48 pm

  aw fuck, i didn read the question properly, i thought manchester derby for some reason!

  i look really clever now!!

• 757. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:48 pm

  Cristian Ziege is one of them!

• 758. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:49 pm

  Ziege is one of them! Well played Mavis..the other?

• 759. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:49 pm

  That’s If you’re counting Newcastle v’s Middlesbrough as North East derby!

• 760. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:49 pm

  Amos: yes, the midfield works. But I still insist there are too many imbalances wouldn’t you say? For example: whenever Diaby plays on the left-side, we are bereft of width. I know you already mentioned that the left-side should be reinforced, and right you are. So let me try a different example: whenever Diaby is not playing, who wins the ball with tackles? It sure as hell isn’t Gilberto. Who puts their foot in? Vieira used to do it, Petit was never shy, Raymundo was brilliant at it and blimey, even Grimandi never bottled it. Who does that for us now?

  That’s why I think GazzaP has actually hit the nail on the head when he says the balance is all wrong - I basically think that if we are going to play attacking, there is no point banging Gilberto in there (although he is key to the side). I think Gilberto flourishes a lot more, when abetted by another solid, tackling centre-mid, a la Vieira. But he is not given the protection he needs, and it unfair to ask him to shoulder all the midfield defensive burden; good as he may be.

  You are also correct on the fact that we dominate possession and so on…but in my view, the imbalance remains because Wenger persist in playing people out of position. Rosicky is criminally wasted on the left-side. Hleb is wasted on the right. Ever since Bergkamp retired, we lost something hugre. For me, Bergkamp was always going to be a greater loss than Vieira, even though Bergy was old and winding down…basically, the team’s attacking potency is too predictable now, because we miss someone to draw defences out. You’ve seen it time and again yourself this season Amos: how do you think Moyes got 4 points off us this season? Sit deep, let them play it into the space in front of you…they never get in behind, they play in front of the defence. Even when Clichy gets in behind he is wasteful with his final ball - only Eboue provides enough menace.

  I really think the only way we will begin to offer the menace of drawing teams out, is if we play Rosicky as a numer 10, in a Bergkamp role. Rosicky has an awesome shot, that we do not see often enough because he is stuck on the wing. Coming inside, Rosicky is devastating; remember Anfield in the FA Cup? In the World Cup against the Yanks? Hamburg away in the Champs League? Reading away? All matches in which Rosicky completely ripped apart the opposition, merely because he chose to disregard basic tactical instructions (i.e. sticking to the left-touchline) and came inside instead.

  Hleb on the right-side is the same - an attacking centre-mid, stuck out on the right wing.

  On the formations point though Amos I could not agree more. I do not understand why Wenger feels it necessary to stick with one single formation for so long! You Can play 2 different ones you know Arsene? 4-5-1 for Europe, and tough away games…4-4-2 for teams that will come to defend like Everton…and an all-out 4-3-3 for basement teams like West Ham, who are neveer really going to pose any semblance of an attacking threat (we’ll not mention Bobby Zamora eh?)

  Now can someone please give me a Chav or ManUre blog website? I’m up for causing mischief…

• 761. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:52 pm

  Paul Ince. Just realised you didn’t say ‘north london derby’!

• 762. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:53 pm

  Why the Chavs will never be a big club, Part 304,849:

  1) As mentioned on F365, St Johnsonte of the Scottish second division, took more away fans to their relegation 6-pointer against Clyde (think it was), than the Chavs took away to Newcaslte in the Prem

  2) The Chavs could not sell their full allocation for the FA Cup semi. Nowhere near, in fact…

  3) The Chavs could not even sell their full allocation for the Champs League semi at Anfield

  4) Tickets can alway be bought on general sale, as adevrtised in the local HMV in Fulham Broadway tube station.

  5) Is it true that £500 million only gets you an (undeserved) Carling Cup these days??!!

• 763. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:54 pm

  Well done Mavis!! I know, that one confused me as well for a while cos I automatically heard ‘North London’ Derby.

• 764. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 3:58 pm

  Who has SCORED in north london, north east(sunderland v newcastle) and Manchester derbies?

• 765. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:00 pm

  I’m getting good at these!

  Here’s one:

  Which player has played and scored in North London, Scouse, Midlands and Istanbul derbies?

• 766. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:02 pm

  765, Is it Anelka?

• 767. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:04 pm

  Waddle?

• 768. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:04 pm

  no..

• 769. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:04 pm

  I totally agree with regards to flexibility of formations, I think even changing them mid game could be hugely beneficial. I would say changing a game with a sub or different approach has to be Wenger’s biggest weakness. Usually, he might throw on a striker and just play him on the wing, but to be able to go from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3-, or 4-5-1 to 4-3-3 mid game might see us turn a few dodgy draws into victories.

• 770. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:04 pm

  Kevin Campbell Mavis?

• 771. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:04 pm

  Sorry! Kevin Campbell!!!!

• 772. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:06 pm

  What is a midlands derby?

• 773. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:06 pm

  Who was Arsenals first ever foreign (Non British/Irish) captain?

• 774. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:07 pm

  Birmingham v Cov or Villa

• 775. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:07 pm

  Yeah, it’s Campbell, but I’ve realised my question was factually incorrect - Trabzonspor isn’t in Istanbul! So well done for getting the right answer to a ‘wrong’ question!

• 776. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:08 pm

  DB10 captained us for about twenty mins in a League cup defeat to Chelsea. I think it was him.

• 777. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:10 pm

  Here’s one. Who is the only player in English football history to be given a match ban for foul and abusive language without actually swearing?

• 778. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:11 pm

  Little D. totally…I mean do you remember the days when we used to actually have 5 (ok…four) decent strikers at Arsenal? We had Henry, Bergkamp, Wiltord, Kanu and Jeffers. My mate and habitual match-day companion always, always, without fail, used to moan about Wenger whenever we were chasing games. I always used to tell him to shut up, but I am finally waking up to this point: basically, Wenger just used to throw Kanu…Wiltord..and kitchen sink on the pitch - but he would not actually bother trying to change the formation mid-game. He never actually does.
  Could not agreemore that springing the odd surprise here and there via a formation change, could catch many a manager off-guard. I think this might have something to do with age, and school of thought? You knw…Wenger is from the old-school, where you never change formation throughout a game. Stick with it always.
  Whereas managers like Benitez and Mourinho are of the new breed, who are much more open to taking gambles and risks in the middle of a game…don’t you reckon?

  Only time Wenger seemed to change a formation during a game we desperately needed to win/were chasing a result in that I can remember, came at home to Dynamo Kiev in the Champs League; he actually pushed Cunt into an advanced left-midfield role, as Kiev were never trying to attack our full-backs - and what happened in the 90th minute?

  Cunt scored…

  Time to go wash, I feel all dirty now….

• 779. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:11 pm

  773, Remi Garde?

• 780. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:14 pm

  Fucking hell CNM, well done. I didn’t think anyone would get that!

• 781. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:17 pm

  i am a thick bastard has anyone noticed that i cant get the answers to these questions

  i tried to talk about football today but still nobody likes me

• 782. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:25 pm

  Ron, don’t worry. You must be having an off day. When your brain operates at such an optimum level, there must be times when it needs to recouperate.

• 783. Amos  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:25 pm

  I wouldn’t disagree with much if anything you say in your last post Respects. Clearly Diaby on the left isn’t the best option and I would reckon over the next season or two you will see him, Cesc and Denilson forming our central midfield with another eventually replacing Gilberto. Gilberto isn’t a ball winner as such though he can tackle but he is pretty adept at reading and intercepting the ball and gaining possession that way. I also think Hleb is a great scrapper for the ball. Unlike Freddie and Reyes he does not go down easily when tackled and just sit on the ground waving his hands in frustration he will battle to win the ball back which is why his tackle success rate is decent. Cesc will develop physically over the next couple of years or so and this will help also in the physical stakes.

  The balance isn’t quite right yet, we sometimes miss the drive and physical power that others have, to augment our passing and possesion game, but I think this could develop pretty rapidly. We need to find that balance and maybe that means a new face but I am quite sure that most of the existing group will play a significant part in the future midfield even if the shape changes a little.

• 784. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:27 pm

  First-ever Arsenal player to be nominated for FIFA World Player of the year?

• 785. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:29 pm

  Can any one name the 5 current Premiership players that appeared in the last season of the old first division (1991/92 )?

• 786. Top Gunner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:30 pm

  with all the links to kone recently, i have been thinking. maybe he would be a decent purchase as i remember he had some good chances against us and constantly harassed our defence. we need someone like that to get under the defenders’ skin and force and error

• 787. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:30 pm

  giggs, scholes, nevilles, fowler?

• 788. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:30 pm

  Dennis?

• 789. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:31 pm

  That was in answer to Respect’s question, by the way!

• 790. Geekov  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:31 pm

  speed? giggs

• 791. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:32 pm

  Sheringham…Speed

• 792. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:33 pm

  David James?

• 793. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:33 pm

  Too true Amos. The middle three you speak of, and that I like i.e. Denilson, Cesc, Diaby…do you not think that again, this poses a new kind of problem? Because surely, and this is only for arguments’ sake…Cesc and Denilson are very similar, we agree. Diaby is a differnet kind of player - but again, the defensive work is left to one man and one man alone! The reason I liked the Gilberto-Vieira axis was because is was devastatingly effective. One was a ’screener’, who intercepted and read the game…whilst the other was a rampaging destroyer - this gave the others room to express themselves. I think the closest example to that one could think of would be AC Milan. Where Gattuso does all the dirty work alone, and Kaka and Pirlo are free to do what they do best - attack and create spaces.

  Gattuso though, is an exception to the rule: a central midfielder so good, you can actually play him on his own in the middle. The only other player there has been of the sort over the past 10 years were the psychotic dog-walker and Patrick V.

  Diaby has the potential but again: do you really think it’s worth the risk? Especially if we sell Gilberto, as is looking incraingly likely next season?

• 794. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:33 pm

  Sol Campbell?

• 795. Geekov  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:34 pm

  Speed Giggs Sheringham, Fowler A Cole?

• 796. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:35 pm

  look at my stupid attempt to get that question its sooo worng im think, fat, short bald

• 797. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:35 pm

  speed giggs and sheringham are 3

• 798. Geekov  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:36 pm

  The FA will soon have Wembley paid off, they just gotta keep on fining AW for a couple more seasons. .

• 799. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:37 pm

  Andy Cole never played in the top flight till he came back with Newcastle, despite the fact he was an Arsenal player around that time.

• 800. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:37 pm

  Well done Mavis, Dennis it was!

• 801. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:38 pm

  ray parlour?

• 802. Falklands Gooner  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:38 pm

  He’s at Hull now Ron.

• 803. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:39 pm

  jimmy-floyd has a wank?

• 804. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:42 pm

  Is Pavel Srnicek one?

• 805. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:43 pm

  By process of elimination: James, Campbell, Sherringham, Speed, Giggs!

• 806. Geekov  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:43 pm

  Well any slim chances of Eto’o coming have been blown out by Myles ‘The Oracle’ Palmer saying he is coming. Nice one Harry Palmer!

• 807. Amos  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:46 pm

  Gattuso does play that role particularly well. Cesc and Denilson are similar players. Denilson does see himself as a playmaker but without burdening him with the label he does have a bit of Roy Keane about him and maybe he could be moulded into that sort of role but realistically its too early to say I guess. As I say the midfield needs to get better at finishing (there has been a little more encouragement over recent games) and the dirty stuff. If we can keep the core together then they should become familiar enough with each others play to forge a strong midfield unit. Having said all that I concede that we are not there yet.

• 808. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:49 pm

  Not Campbell not James.Of the two left one is hard and the other is a complete stinker

• 809. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:51 pm

  I’m gonna take a long shoit and say that at the beginning of the season, Les Ferdinand was on Watford’s books. Is he one?

• 810. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:52 pm

  Chris Sutton?

• 811. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:53 pm

  Chris Sutton yes

• 812. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:53 pm

  Amos, I know I always repeat this whenever you and I have discussions about our midfield and their lack of goalscoring nous…but I am going to be forced to say it again…it all comes down to that man again…Pires! Why oh why did Wenger let him go in the manner he did, I will never know….He would outscore any single one of our current midfielders right now. But of course, it’s old ground, and you are correct that recently there has been cause for a little encouragement. I remember Wenger discussing Gattuso in an interview once, and saying that alongside Vieira, that he was the best defensive midfielder he had seen over the last 8-10 years. The Denilson-Keane one is an interesting comparison - Denilson does appear to possess a fearless arrogance about him that I like, but appears infinitely more skillful than Keane…in a technical sense of the word of course…

• 813. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:54 pm

  Gareth Southgate is still registered as a player, is he another?

• 814. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:54 pm

  I’m leaving work now and this is going to be bugging me all night. Cheers CNM!

• 815. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:55 pm

  Mark Crossley is a Fulham player, it has to be him.

• 816. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:56 pm

  not counting southgate

• 817. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:56 pm

  LD - it must be Crossley. U da man!

• 818. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:56 pm

  No, the final one is Ballack! Think about it.

• 819. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:58 pm

  que?

• 820. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:58 pm

  Crossley has left Fulham

• 821. Mavis  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:58 pm

  eh?

• 822. Little Dutch  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 4:59 pm

  I thought Crossley was out on loan? How is it Ballack? He’s only 30 isn’t he?

• 823. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:00 pm

  that ballack one wasnt me

• 824. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:02 pm

  well when i was told it Crossley wasnt on it.They must be using players that arent on loan

• 825. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:06 pm

  steve harper??

• 826. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:07 pm

  not harper

• 827. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:08 pm

  steven carr?

• 828. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:09 pm

  Erm…totally off-topic. Was watching the Departed with DiCaprio and Jack Nicholson, with the Missus a few nights back (what a film)…anyway. Is it just me, or has anybody else noted a striking resemblance between Matt Damon and Michael Ballack??? Hhhhhhhmmmm…no wonder he’s been playing so shit, they must have switched bodies…

• 829. ron  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:10 pm

  nicky butt?

• 830. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:10 pm

  Im gonna have to put you out of your misery

• 831. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:18 pm

  Its Matt Jackson he was an Everton player in 1991/92.
  Told you it was a stinker

• 832. Adam Sandler  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:28 pm

  After 2 barren season, is hard not to turn against Wenger. The fact remains that he is the architect of our inability to win any trophy. As RH mention, Wenger has made some odd decisions to offload Edu, Pires, Sol, Lauren and Viera. While our outcoming crops of young players may have yet to unleash to its full potentials, it is incredibly prevalent to be worried about whether they can win a major trophy in the coming years. The signs are there, the lack of cutting edge, determination, defendings problems, complacency, captaincy role, set pieces vulnerbility and inability to kill off opponents. Wengers so far has failed to rectify the problem and that means a change of personel is inevitable. Our midfield is currently one of the most lightweighted in the country. There is no one doing the sliding and tackling. Our defending at times have been appaling. Inability to keep the lead will cost us dearly again next season, concentration level has been poor for our defenders. Even our usual reliable Kolo has been caught napping at times. Gallas so far has failed to live up to his expectation. Eboue and Clichy are often being targeted by opponents by their unconvincing defending at times. Can Wenger rectifies this? This problems remains unfixed. Till next season we expect changes to be made. New players to come in. Wenger also need to change his tactics and style. Mourinho and Benitez arrival means the need to act. Wenger has taken 2 transistional season. Ferguson took 2 years to regain success. I expect Wenger to follow suit. But if Wenger stick to his stubborn way of belief in his current players, we will nv win anything. He has did wonder to this club, but is time he change his mindset and accept tht Arsenal are behind Man U and Chelsea

• 833. Chris  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:41 pm

  Yup agreed Sandler. Hard not to be pissed off at Wenger after all this shit. We are so uncompetitive these days its a joke. respects just mentioned pires and I could not agree more. What a fucking pathetic decision I cannot believe some people still call Wenger a world-class manager after 2 such world-class fuck-ups. Joke. If anyone. ANYONE. can argue with me that since he sold Vieira we have done jack then i would love to hear it. Remember what he said? ‘Trust us’. Yeah sure whatever you say Arsene….’Lightwight’ does not even begin to descrobe our powder-puff midfield. Our defence is complete turd. Shit and cannot defend anything in the air. Our goalkeeper is a liability. And as for our so-called ’strikeforce’…so let me get this straight. If our goalie is shit, our defence is incompetent and not fit to wear the shirt, our midfield is underage and lightweight and our strikers powder-puff….exactly how shit is this side? Answer? It is the WORST side under Wenger by some distance. The worst.

• 834. Breaking News  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:42 pm

  This just in from our on the spot reporter, Adam Sandler;
  “Arsenal are behind Man U and Chelsea! Yes you heard me correctly, they are in fact behind them, not along side them or ahead of them but behind them, that is all.”

• 835. Breaking News  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:43 pm

  And on that Bombshell, he’s ron with the weather…

• 836. Breaking News  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 5:48 pm

  Shit, better hide the cutlery, the suicidal masochists are waking up from their medication induced afternoon naps.

  Nurse!!!!

• 837. Royce  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:02 pm

  Screw you breaking you have no idea hpw angry this makes me feel that we are so shit and that we are not even able to compete with Manu I can barely look my Liverpool and ManU friends in the eyes just like George Cuntstanza said, it is so difficult to see how many years behind the top teams in the EPL we are that’s without getting started on the top teams in Europe we are nowhere near the European elite and there is nothing we have ever done to convince in that competition maybe it has something to do with Wenger signing CHILDREN all the fucking time and never signing world-class players no wonder Patrick Vieira left he had had enough of never winning anything and he was proved right in the end wasn’t he now he has 2 serie A titles and since he has gone arsenal have just become the biggest joke in world football out the so-called ‘big clubs’ a joke that does not seem to be getting any better its quite ridiculous but hey why not just put on a pair of rosy glasses and never bother tthinking about what could be wrong with this team where are the players like Kaka and van nistelrooy no all we have instead is shit players like forrest gump and other shit no wonder top players will never join us i cannot take this shit anymore it is too much for any real fan to bare next season has got to improve stylee or otherwise wenger will have alot of questions to answer no wonder arsenal no longer sell as many shirts as manu and now even chelsea sell more shirts in asia than arsenal does how do we expect to sign anyone with shit like that?

• 838. Breaking News  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:04 pm

  Possible ways of improvement;

  1) The younger players develop and are better for this years experience
  2) AW signs a younger GK to push Lemon & who can step in if m(when) he fucks up.
  3) AW gets a defensive coach in who actually understands defending.
  4) Kolo & Gallas form a decent partnership due to both being injury free (some hope)
  5) AW signs a quality winger. Not a right back he wants to change into a left winger or any shit like that, a proper winger, with skill, directness, pace and knows where the fucking goal is!
  6) He finds a place for Diaby and no, not at Left wing or as a second fucking striker, we got plenty of them, nope, in the middle of midfield, sort it.
  7) AW signs a quality striker, not a second striker, or a winger he wants to convert into a striker, but a top goal hanging bastard type striker.

  Either that or we get rid of Wenger and get Rijkard in. Then we can all slag him off in 2 years time coz he dont know how to put a defense together neither.

• 839. Breaking News  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:08 pm

  Royce, you ARE joking right? Im sure you are coz it was brilliant mate;

  “Screw you breaking you have no idea hpw angry this makes me feel that we are so shit and that we are not even able to compete with Manu I can barely look my Liverpool and ManU friends in the eyes just like George Cuntstanza ”

  Comedy gold that.

  Cant look your ManU & Liverpool supporting mates in the eye! Fucking brilliant!

  Keep it up, Im off tho

  ta ra

• 840. dan  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:18 pm

  The Wenger Out brigade make me laugh - you remind me of 3 year old children who can’t have their toys!

  - The man has totally re-built the side from scratch for FUCK ALL.
  - Pires was absolute shite in his last 18 months - similar to how Ljungberg has been over a similar timescale. “Oh why did we sell him?”
  - Our injuries have been atrocious (VP, TH, WG, PS)
  - Our luck has been atrocious. The games where we should have battered them then let a soft goal in against a shit side where never ending. Luck is important.
  - Our Ronaldo / Gerrard / Lampard figure Thierry Henry has been injured due to non-stop football over the past 6 seasons, topped off by that CUNT Domenech playing him for 90 minutes at every opportunity. Even when he was fit he was at 60%.

  If you are slating Wenger or turning on the players - you are not intelligent and aren’t a true Arsenal fan. Ever heard of patience?
  How many times has a Wenger signing frustrated only to turn into a world beater? When has his judgement been seriously flawed before?

  All we need is a world class mid-twenties goalie and possibly a Gilberto with teeth in the middle (Diaby?) - anyone who thinks that our attack needs overhauling wants to wake up - you are a moron.

  Thankyou

• 841. Weatherman  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:30 pm

  There will be a severe depression over the blog for the rest of the afternoon with heavy wailing and outbreaks of Marcus and prolonged periods of Gelbs. Intermittent Adam Sandlers will be give way to various other doom merchants while the outlook is for very wet beds until the morning.

• 842. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:52 pm

  Breaking News. Points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 of post 838 are all valid, and excellent, useful oints. Well said mate.

• 843. *_Respects Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 6:53 pm

  Especiall points 2, 3, 5 and 7.

• 844. ey  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:07 pm

  “Wah, wah, wah, all my Man Yoo and Chelski mates make fun of me, they win things, and wear their kits all the time, but sisnce they found out I started supporting Arsenal After Wenger’s first double, they now make fun of me. wah, wah wah”
  -marcus and 1057 other gloryhunters who bitch here.

  Jessus, if you happened to be Leeds fans, you’d have either klled yourself or tried to mug the manager. Oh…Leeds scum did try to mug the manager.

  PS, We’ll prob take 3rd, as the Hub Cap Steelers prepare for their 2nd place finish in the CL

• 845. ey  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 pm

  Breaking Nwes,

  I think paddy played for france on the left at times, part of his “education” in International football, i think.

  But Diaby and Cesc in CM…ooooh!

• 846. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:10 pm

  We wont get third the Chavs will best us sunday and the best we will get at Pompey is a draw

• 847. ey  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:14 pm

  oh, ok….

• 848. The Colorado Bugle  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:24 pm

  Today Colorado’s very own Stan ‘Charisma’ Kroenke exclusively talked to the Bugle about his future plans. Not content with buying Nuggets he now wants to extend his mighty empire by buying little known sports franchise Arsenal London, who ply their particularly obscure sport of “Soccah” in the Ye Olde English Association of Beefeaters Premier League. Bear with me guys, this is a ’sport’ that your young daughters may be familiar with. It involves 37 aside teams who have to kick a round ball, like a basketball into a big square net; no bonus points, no time out and no fancy outfits and headgear! And incredibly, only 2 halves! Those Limeys are just plum crazy! Must be all that fish & chips!

  Mr Kroenke says he wants to buy the Arses so he can bring them to Colorado and they can perform their wacky ’sport’ in the intervals and ad breaks during the Nuggets and Avalanches home games!

  That Stan, he sure is one zaney dude.

• 849. The Colorado Bugle  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:31 pm

  Thats the ticket, Charlie, good old positive attitude!

• 850. Charlie Nicholas's Mullet  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:44 pm

  realism mate.We aint finishing third Liverpool have Fulham and Charlton we have Chelsea and Portsmouth

• 851. The Colorado Bugle  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 8:52 pm

  Fulham will beat Liverpool and Charlton will get a draw.

  Arsenal draw with the Chavs and beat Pompey.

  That was the Breaking Future News

• 852. *_Respect Highbury  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 9:06 pm

  Oh Dear. Looks like magic Tomas Rosicky is injured, yet again.
  What the hell is it with the Arsenal medical department’s incompetence? Dear Lord…

  And time to be proud of Thierry Henry also:
  http://breakingnews.iol.ie/sport/story.asp?j=266728273&p=z667z9y36&n=266729216&t=soccer

  Well done Terrence…

• 853. Marcus  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:06 pm

  same shit from the players. talking shit bout how they’re ‘gonna win the PL next season’. should try beating west fucking ham or everton first. bunch of pricks. as for wenger giving lehmann a one-year deal. cannot wait for the new excuses from the rose-tinted brigade after lehmann costs us in the CL AGAIN next season. i am thinking back and that defeat to psv is THE worst of wenger’s afc career. pure rubbish. psv are a bunch of shite and yet tactical clown wenger lost to them. pathetic. just seen that seville in spain have made back-to-back Uefa cup finals. back-to-back euro finals in the only 2 seasons they’ve ben in europe. now THATS wot u call a top-notch manager. wenger can do a milwall and fluke a one-off final in 10 years. so wenger’s CL record is as good as milwall’s in the Fa cup over the last 10 years. and worse than everton’s. same as monaco and worse than porto. how fucking crap an unimpressive. too much shit in the squad that needs to get shipped out. pleb needs to go. hoyte? well woulda said him but guess wot? hoyte will be sipping bubbly tropical fruit pop and chewing on fruitellas like the mug he is. instead of shipping out the shit he gives’em new deals. wot a joker. hasnt got a clue. lost it completely. sold vieira and now on an ireversible slide down to basement toilet. scrapping for bragging rights with top clubs like bolton, everton and co. ridiculous. face facts. team not good enough but lets hear it for the boys. they werent good enough this year and neither was their manager. but hey! if ur head keeps bleeding after pounding the wall and wont get better…keep pounding it again and again!!!

• 854. Lionel  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:37 pm

  yawnnnnn……..same old boring shit again and again and again from mucus

• 855. Max  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 10:41 pm

  I is a lyricist on the mic cant you see
  If you cant wave your hands then you are chi chi

• 856. ey  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:57 pm

  Marcus (Gelbs)…you are so stupid it’s hilarious.

• 857. Kem  |  May 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 pm

  Why do people think Marcus is Gelbs ?

• 858. ey  |  May 4th, 2007 at 1:14 am

  Because all the whinging “Arsene out” cunts sound the same. Or rather, read the same.

• 859. disco dave  |  May 4th, 2007 at 1:52 am

  LD: post 649 - one of your best!

• 860. disco dave  |  May 4th, 2007 at 6:13 am

  Marcus: tool

• 861. Top Gunner  |  May 4th, 2007 at 8:34 am

  now this has to be the all time record

• 862. fabz  |  May 4th, 2007 at 9:33 am

  AND I FINALLY WIND IT UP
  ——————————————————————————————

• 863. Cesc, ACMilan and Athens &hellip  |  May 4th, 2007 at 5:43 pm

  [...] 但想想晃眼三年過去, 法布已從青澀成長到現在的中場將軍 看到這篇 Cesc sums up our season, 誠實中肯地點出這賽季Arsenal的問題 [...]

• 864. fatboy  |  May 15th, 2007 at 7:38 pm

  Pah, whats this nonsense people talk about Hleb having a bad atitude and not doing this and not doing that.

  He’s been very close to our best player all season.

  Sure he needs to get on the end of things more to weigh in with some goals, and his shooting in general is a bit comical, but he is pure class.

  All season he has been going what he is supposed to do - putting the ball on peoples toes in front of an open goal 8 yards out. Its not his fault if they insist on destroying the chances.

  Unfortunately our new Stadium is overrun with 20,000 more tourist muppets who dont understand what they are seeing and their idocy rubs off on the proper fans.

  Straight up honest Fabregas, genius he undeniably is, has been the biggest disappointment and problem this season.
  He has been hitting some killer balls through for goals but in general he has been losing possession all over the place at the most inopportune of times - thats not what Fabregas is about. Fabregas is about near faultless ball retention and use. He alluded to this in the interview.
  Add to that unbelievable self indulgence in crucial games when he perceived things to be going our way. Another thing he alludes to in the interview.
  Fabregas clearly isnt happy with his form this season and hes right not to be.
  He has still been brilliant this season, but thats because his base level is world class lol.

  But then then the hero worshipping Sun readers dont actually watch whats going on but simply look for confirmation of their iron clad opinions, so I dotn expect many people to be aware of the fact the Hleb has been excellent and Fabregas , by his mighty standards, a bit dodgy.

  Booing Hleb beggers belief. Gimps. And you can cut that “shoooot!” bullshit out too while you are at it, lol.

  /rant over

  cheers

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