Ramsey, Chamberlain & Fan Perception

Aaron Ramsey was criticised by fans last night

Aaron Ramsey is out-of-form and, as it happens, out of the team.  By that I mean he was only given a chance in his favoured central midfield role at Wolves in order to afford Tomas Rosicky a rest.  At Everton and QPR, he was shunted in to an unfamiliar left-wing role in order to fulfil a defensive function – an unhappy square peg in an ill-fitting round hole.  The only reason Ramsey came on last night was because of the unfortunate injury to Mikel Arteta.  And in a fully fit squad, he would not have been first off the bench: both Abou Diaby and Jack Wilshere, entirely absent this season, would be ahead of him in the pecking order.

He knows he’s not playing well.  You can see it in his desperation in front of goal; his desire to make a tangible contribution to the team.  The manager knows it too –  he doesn’t make excuses for players who don’t need them.  But there are mitigating circumstances with Ramsey.  His horrific injury means that this is his first full season in the Premier League.  He made his first start for Arsenal post leg-break on the 19th March 2011 – barely a year ago.  This season he has been involved in no less than 40 games, starting 32.  The weight of responsibility has been significant: Arsene Wenger expected to retain Samir Nasri, and have Jack Wilshere available for selection.  Instead, Arsenal have leaned heavily on a 21-year old, who has only recently been able to share the burden with a rejuvenated Tomas Rosicky.

In that period he himself would admit that he’s not scored enough goals, or provided enough assists.  Throughout the season I’ve been quick to criticise him for being a little impetuous in his decision making, or for attempting a difficult pass when the simpler ball is a better option.  However, one thing I can never question is his commitment.  Despite his poor form, he’s never hid.  He’s never let his head go down, or stopped trying things.  He’s a player of enormous mental fortitude – he probably wouldn’t even have been able to make a top level comeback if that weren’t the case.

Last night, however, sections of the crowd and huge swathes of the global fanbase couldn’t wait to get on his back as soon as he got on the pitch.  His touch was admittedly uncertain, but immediately a man sat yards from me leapt to his feet and demanded he be subbed off.  In the aftermath of the game, the criticism of him ranged from the illogical (“Ramsey cost us the game”) to the obscene (death threats and encouragement to take his own life sent directly to his Twitter account).

Let’s deal with the facts first: Ramsey was not to blame for our defeat.  By that point we were already two nil down, and whilst he was poor during his time on the pitch, he was no worse than many of his team-mates.  Secondly, what do these so-called ‘supporters’ hope to gain from this behaviour?  It’s hardly going to spur Ramsey on to improve.  As I’ve stated many times, there’s no question over his commitment – he’s simply been asked to do too much this season, and has finally hit a rut of poor form.  He will come again.  There is not a team in the country who wouldn’t want the 21-year old captain of Wales in their squad.

Of course, part of the fans’ collective frustration is that by this point they were already baying for ‘The Ox’.  After a run of starts in January and February, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has recently been used almost exclusively from the bench.  The fans question the wisdom of Arsene’s selection policy, but the fine form of Theo Walcott and our impressive winning run suggests its not entirely foolish.  However, as soon as Arsenal found themselves two goals down yesterday, there was a collective sense that only Oxlade-Chamberlain could save us.

Indeed, when he eventually did come on, after chants of ‘Ox Ox Ox’ from an impatient crowd, his arrival was met with the loudest roar of the night.  I have to say, I wasn’t entirely comfortable with it.  Encouragement is good – pressure to be the Messiah is not.

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain shows off his talent in Europe

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is an outstanding young player, and that has been recognised by his fellow professionals nominating him for the Young Footballer of the Year award.  However, that nomination is more a recognition of his talent than his contribution this season.  Look at the names alongside him – Aguero, Bale, Sturridge.  They have been regular starters for their team, scoring in to the double-figures and featuring regularly at international level.  Chamberlain has just five Premier League starts to his name.  For all his promise, he has much to learn, and his contribution when he came on was indicative of that.  He showed plenty of passion, charging at defenders and turning this way and that, but on two occasions he lost the ball and left us facing a dangerous counter-attack when a simple pass was on.  He will learn, because he is good enough, and intelligent enough.  But the level of expectation around this boy is becoming absurd.

He is not Messi.  He is not Ronaldo.  I daren’t say he won’t ever reach that level – I would never set limitations on anybody’s talent – I’ve seen improvements in players that defy belief.  But he’s a long way from that yet, and Arsenal fans need to show patience with his development, and measure their expectations accordingly.

I would certainly have him ahead of Gervinho in the pecking order, but once Arsene had made the call to introduce the Ivorian, surely the most sensible way to use the remaining substitute was to deploy a second striker in Marouane Chamakh?  I was as baffled by Arsene’s decision as I was by the fans’ jubilant reaction.

It’s good to back youngsters.  But here’s my worry: when Aaron Ramsey was 18 years old, I’d say his potential was roughly equivalent to Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain’s now.  People were talking about him as a future Arsenal captain, a ‘Steven Gerrard figure’ and part of an exciting new generation of British talent.  Ramsey is a lesson that the hype and expectation around a young starlet can quickly turn to frustration – just ask Theo Walcott, who was pilloried last night for a performance that was nullified more by Wigan’s outstanding tactics than any failings on Theo’s part.

It is my firm belief that Aaron Ramsey and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain will become massive players for Arsenal Football Club.  What they both need from the fans is time, patience, support, and a bit of perspective.  Let’s give them that.

Gunnerblog is the brainchild of childbrained football writer James McNicholas. Aside from Gunnerblog, James currently contributes to Bleacher Report, The Mirror and ESPN.

877 Comments

  1. eduardo   •  

    i think that comment just adds support to your article. pathetic comment.

  2. Orpington Gooner   •  

    Please remove that obnoxious first ‘Gary Speed’ comment response its uncalled for.

    Ramsey didn’t play particularly well but neither did a few others, my only concern with him is that he tends to slow our attacking play up and he needs to therefore learn to make quicker and more decisive decisions to pick out team mates in advanced positions rather than side ways passing (perhaps its a confidence thing).

  3. shrek2be   •  

    To the very 1st poster,fuck right off . Don’t claim to be a Gooner and say that you support Arsenal,you fucking thug. With “fans” like you we don’t deserve to win anything. Go and support some other club !!!1

  4. shrek2be   •  

    To the very 1st poster,fuck right off . Don’t claim to be a Gooner and say that you support Arsenal,you fucking thug. With “fans” like you we don’t deserve to win anything. Go and support some other club !!!

  5. Richard   •  

    If you can delete comments then please do get rid of that moronic one by “Gary Speed” above

  6. Mike   •  

    What an absolute idiot you are! Piers Morgan is more of an Arsenal fan than you’ll ever be!

    Get a life mate!

  7. merskamp   •  

    I’d leave that atrocious comment there at the top as its a good example of the article’s point. Every club has those fans and its up to the rest of us to put them in their place, prison hopefully.
    Ramsey hasnt had a great season – but he hasnt ever hid and credit to him for that. He’s in trouble when Wilshire returns though. I hope he has a good end to the season.

  8. jordan   •  

    THAT IS THE MOST FUNNY AND FUCKED UP THING IVE EVER READ (THE COMMENT)
    I MEAN TO BE HONEST YOU ARE A WANKER BECAUSE GARY SPEED IS A LEDGE AND RAMBO WILL BE GREAT AND THE ARTICLE IS RIGHT. ONE THING THOUGH, HE IS MOVING LIKE THE BRITISH DENILSON AS OF LATE.

  9. Matt   •  

    I’d argue that Song and at least 4 of the 5 in the back had worse games than Ramsey.

  10. rellends   •  

    that first comment from gary speed is an absolute disgrace. i wouldn’t mind but the people who are getting on his back now are probably the same people who were moaning about fabregas’ heir apparent getting injured by shawcross 2 seasons ago.

  11. Manamongst   •  

    When you said, ¨when Aaron Ramsey was 18 years old, I’d say his potential was roughly equivalent to Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain’s now¨ I almost wished I never read the rest of the drivel. Football isn´t always fair. The elevation of Ramsey´s pre-break skills have been grossly exaggerated. He had no real pace before, nor passing skills…or vision. Bottom-line is, not every team would want him in their squad, and I doubt he could start for Swansea. I know that doesn’t feel good to be reminded of this but it is what it is. By writing such a ‘derisive of another player’ for the sake of another player post…it actually makes you come off silly.
    To an informed and rational fan it’s clear what’s going on…AOC has been put on ice to keep him off Euro 3 Lion’s squad…not to be cruel but take you finger away from the keyboard long enough to think about it. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has more technical CM and attacking midfield skills in his little toe at 18 than Aaron Ramsey will ever have. It’s clear watching the poor kid Ramsey meander and wander about the pitch…break-up well spaced triangles just to get ‘his touch’. I actually think it’s the bleeding heart fans such as yourself worried about his feeling and confidence that are doing the lad the biggest disservice. There’s no real excuse for a lack of awareness and lack of positional knowledge. I fear he’s as football illiterate and creativity illiterate as Walcott. As for Chamberlain, he was in great form months back but has been snatched from him by Wenger for the most part with Kryptonite for young players: a run of almost run-outs (17 to 22 minute appearances) which only lead to pressing and bad habits, which we’ve seen. Expectation are NOT absurd…apparently you’ve missed something along the way.

    • Master Bates   •  

      Let me try to make a case for Aaron Ramsey

      Ramsey’s greatest strength is his engine ,He works so hard and can do what he does for 90 minutes(remember Udinese where we had to protect a slim lead). he is also very good at passing ,I know you critics don’t like numbers,But I don’t need numbers to show that he completes most of his passes ,take yesterday for instance , we would have had good possesion yesterday if he really was a sloppy passer.Problem he plays with the handbrake on ,He looks for the easy pass and takes to pass it ,before his injury he made lots of amazing forward passes.He also very good at getting himself in goalscoring position ,too bad he doesn’t convert them , but to a guy like me that’s halfway to being great . rosicky in a full match would barely get shots , He should improve work on his composure..

      Ramsey and Ox are different kind of players , Ramsey is your typical english Box to Box midfielder like they way he plays for Wales and they have really improved .

      I think he’s done really well this season , he was a regular in the first half of the season and did well to get us in the top 4 and win the UCL group , not any 21 year old can do that. There is a reason he was heavily over relied on ,It’s because he was part of a winning team ,He showed it vs Wolves too ,

      Anyway at the end of the day , opinions don’t really matter especially if they are really negative ,Wenger’s waay better at judging players than you, with an injured Arteta he’ll probably start vs Chelsea and I back him to do great like he did the last time we met.

    • John   •  

      ” to an informed and rational fan…..”. My god, you are an arrogant twat. You really think you know it all do you. Let’s be frank, if you really knew anything about football you would know that there are no certainties. you’re just another pontificating condescending qwerty expert. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

      • Manamongst   •  

        Well I’m sorry if my sub-category of informed rational fan (nothing arrogant about that is there?) caused you to exclude yourself. Don’t get it twisted smartguy, I’m not the one of the type around here saying I know more than Arsene or that he’s an idiot. But there are clearly certain things Wengers just not going to come out and say. You already knew how he felt before Wilshere went on National team, you know how he whines at every international break. And frankly I’m tired of hearing jerks fool themselves as why Ramsey is actually playing or has played this crucial string of games. when clearly my point has Wenger killing two birds with one stone (AOC not getting a Euro Cup team place, and Ramsey getting an absolute opportunity to show what he’s got or more importantly what he doesn’t before the house gets supposedly cleaned).

        I’ve never been opposed to listening and mixing it up with people that know more than me, but for all intents and purposes, I don’t think you fulfill that aspect for me in this instance, but I was still nice and respectful to you. I’m secure in knowing that I know more than you. Get over it.

        • BobAJob   •  

          Sorry, but if you think Wenger is not playing someone to stop them being picked by their country you are an idiot.

        • colhouna   •  

          You are quite clearly neither informed or rational. Informed would imply you have received some knowledge or information from a party with direct access to the source (in this case, Wenger’s mind). Secondly, I would argue, as others have, that it is completely irrational to think that Wenger would play anything other than his perceived strongest team, in order to stop someone playing for their country. Whenever asked, I’m fairly sure he always says Ox would be ready to play at the euros.
          You are neither informed or rational. Just a tosser, who deserves no respect.

        • lord snotty   •  

          Ramsey is not alone in being a “passenger” at this club. There are a number of others and we all know who they are, earning fantastic wages and not making a contribution for one reason or another! In my opinion, Wenger’s problem is he’s far too tolerant of such players and too lax on matters of discipline in general.

          As for the so-called supporters who have been sending death threats – isn’t such behaviour a crime and if so, can’t they be arrested for inciting racial hatred or something. Are the Welsh a “race”?

    • Allow the hate   •  

      You really are a muppet

  12. Bryan   •  

    May your underwear turn carnivorous and consume your genitals, you absolute and utter moron of a man. This type of vitriolic slander is categorical of the problems with the so-called “supporters” everyone bitches about having to deal with online.

  13. Timi   •  

    I understand the point of the article, but it’s just all a bit silly.

    Ramsey has been bollocks for ages now. Sure, he broke his leg and I genuinely feel for him, but he’s just bad now. Fullstop. We shouldn’t pull punches, after all he’s on tens of thousands a week. The death threats are stupid, as is the first comment. But we have a right to say ramsey has been piss-poor for a while now. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. The Ox is already a better CM. Ramsey should leave summer. It’s like you say in the article, if wilshere and diaby were fit, ramsey would be behind them in the pecking order.

    I will also go as far as saying he’d be behind coquelin, who has an amazing touch, great vision, and great passing abilities.
    Oh and the Ox is a CM according to wenger. so ramsey will fall even further down the pecking order.
    So ramsey should leave.

    • k   •  

      Course we should sell him. Selling people is the easiest solution innit? I wish we’d sell the entire squad mind, they’re all useless. Even Robin, he hasn’t scored as much as he has in the start of the season, what a load of rubbish. Sell.

      Oh and before I forget, don’t forget to blame Wenger. Doesn’t really matter he hauled us up from the shitpile at the start of the year. Entirely his fault we were in the situation in the first place.

      Ramsey is a piece of bollocks too. Can’t pass, can’t score, he’s the welsh Denilson. Can’t wait for Wilshere to get back. Though if he’s going to struggle for form like Ramsey does, we should sell him as well. Wilshere better hit the ground running, don’t want him slowing the play down or finding his feet when he’s just recovered from a full season out, we’ve got no time for that nonsense.

      Just don’t sell the Ox. If anyone will save us, he will.

      P.S. GS, you’re asking for perspective from Gooners? We’re the worst set of fans in the world at getting perspective. While I’m proud to be a Gooner, the fallout from yesterday makes me cringe.

      WENGER OUT! RAMSEY OUT! EVERYONE OUT! (except for the ox)

      • Timi   •  

        I didn’t say half of the things you sarcastically suggested. I said we should sell one player, and I stand by that. He’s been shit and if you re-read my post, I lay out good points about without injuries, he’s a 3rd choice CM at best. Try reading my comment yeah? Cheers.

      • ollie   •  

        that is about what it amounts to amongst us fans! Hilarious tho’

  14. Cpt BlackBeard   •  

    I am beocming ashamed to call myself an Arsenal Fan, Ive been to the emirates quite alot this season and the complete horse sh*t that comes out of fans mouths makes me wonder if they have ever played the game of football. So so fickle its upsetting, and I feel for young players like Ramsey and the Ox when our home fans give them such a hard time.At home games fans have an important part to play, they can spur a team to victory or push them towrd defeat. YOu have to back your team.
    Most fans, me included, dont have a scooby doo, so we should just keep our uninformed opinions to ourselves when we watch the mighty arsenal and commence cheering/SUPPORTING
    Screaming for the introduction of the Ox is great, he knows hes valued, but putting that pressure on isnt really helpful? Ramsey being booed before hes even kicked the ball, isnt helpful

  15. Gee   •  

    Wenger dupes the thick fans by selling them an amazing future year in year out. He sells the dream of us buying a young player that will turn out to be a world beater.

    The hopes get lifted and even Wenger himself adds fuel to the fire with favourable comments on these young startlets.

    All Wenger ever sells is the future glories, but the reality of this future is actually selling these young plays at big profits and starting again after winning no trophies in the process.

    Can we all not see we are in the second phase of this with Ox and Ramsey being the poster boys.

    Previously it was Cesc, Denilson, Diaby and Adebayor before that. They either fail and are subject to abuse from the fans or they make it and are sold for big bucks.

    Wenger for my money can spot a talent, but has lost his way in terms of nurturing them and blending them into an experienced team.

    All the pressure is heaped on the young kid to sink or swim and it is getting beyond a joke now.

    Ramsey should be plying his trade alongside a top class, experienced central midfielder, not being first pick above Denilson and next in line because we’ve sold cesc and/or Nasri.

    Wenger needs to manage these kids alot better

    • Allow the hate   •  

      ‘Alongside a top-class, experienced central midfielder’ Arteta? Rosicky? Song?
      If you really think Wenger is only interested in making money, then you’re a muppet.

  16. Bona   •  

    Fuck off Spuds!!!!!!!

    • Bona   •  

      That comment was in reply to the sick “gary speed” commen that was removed just now.

      • Gooner 4 Life   •  

        What was the ‘sick gary speed’ comment….??

  17. GilbertoSilver   •     Author

    I’ve removed the first comment, out of respect for Gary Speed.

    Neat illustration of some of the idiocy of a minority of our ‘fans’, though.

    • Gooner 4 Life   •  

      WHAT THE HELL WAS THE COMMENT..??

  18. Bona   •  

    Dear GS, I agree with you. We shouldn`t blame Ramsey. But who should we blame, who has to take responsiblity? Who picks the team? Who signs players? Who? Who? Who? Someone has to step up here. I`ll give you a hint. It`s not me, Ramsey or you, so who?

  19. BnT   •  

    From the blog that championed Denilson for years until Arsene finally realized he was shit comes THE AARON RAMSEY SAGA.

    Watch as Aaron goes through half a decade at Arsenal picking up pay rises along the way, with each good performance in every five games being used as an indication of greatness lurking under the surface (Diaby (c)).

    Live through the magic of Aaron having one good season aged 25 and then moving to Citeh for £20m

    THE AARON RAMSEY SAGA, COMING TO AN OVERPRICED UNDERTROPHIED STADIUM NEAR YOU.

  20. meaner   •  

    Actually what talent does Ramilson has? Can someone please enlighten me?

    • k   •  

      He doesn’t stop running. Tries to create. Gets into scoring positions consistently.

      • Manamongst   •  

        LOLz
        Exactly…nothing. You sound like his mom. Now that I think about it, I could get into scoring positions…doesn’t mean I should be playing; that is the football equivalent of putting, Office & Excel on your CV…anyone worth their salt should come to the job with that in their holster buddy.

        And “tries to create” just hush buddy…ok?

        • Master Bates   •  

          You sound happy Manamongst

      • tomdotcom   •  

        Exactly. He tries. He puts some effort in. That alone puts him head and shoulders above Denilson.

  21. k   •  

    and I hate how we always look for scapegoats. the blame always has to be assigned to a single person. Ramsey, Eboue, Bendtner, Walcott.

    I recall a lot of people saying we should’ve sold Robin because he was injury prone and when he played he slowed things down too much. I remember people saying Arteta was rubbish, to many sideways passes and he was the spanish Denilson. These are the same people who hailed the likes of Vela and Eduardo as savious even though, with respect, they didn’t do too much.

    Sometimes I worry for my fellow Gooners. Too many people play too much Football Manager and think that they have all the solutions to all the problems, and that all these problems are really not as complex as they are. Quick to judge, extremely shortsighted (WE SHOULD BUY XXX AND SELL XXX, DOESN’T MATTER IF WE BLOW 70 MILLION ON HIM)

    Sometimes I can’t help but feel that Arsenal supporters can be the worst.

    • Manamongst   •  

      All of the above mentioned Gooners have a different story, stop trying to loop them in to protect the one with the least skill. Even many Denilson haters can’t argue with his retention and passing stats, I’m afraid poor Ramsey won’t have Denilson-like numbers to even hang his hat on.

      • k   •  

        Trying to loop them? The one common thing they had was they were all singled out as scapegoats. I’m not trying to protect anyone. I’m just saying everyone loves a scapegoat. No one was saying anything about Ramsey before his poor run of form.

        And I say again, I recall a lot of people saying we should’ve sold Robin because he was injury prone and when he played he slowed things down too much. I remember people saying Arteta was rubbish, to many sideways passes and he was the spanish Denilson. These are the same people who hailed the likes of Vela and Eduardo as savious even though, with respect, they didn’t do too much. Players need time to grow.

        And time, is something that many “fans” don’t have. A lot of you want success NOW. If it’s not working? SELL SELL SELL. Buy someone new and expensive and with a great reputation, pray that it works. If it fails, recycle the process. Ramsey is 21. How many players are capable of being brilliant at 21? Not many.

        Arsenal supporters are the worst at getting perspective. The absolute worst. We love blowing things out of proprtion and we love massive overreactions.

  22. Onenil   •  

    Exactly! As somebody above said, the same “supporters” we’re going crazy for Ramsey prior to his injury. I remember Cesc praising him in a interview. Now a young player like that doesn’t just suddenly turn bad – but they can suffer from a loss of confidence.

    I get the feeling sometimes that most people here have never played football. Never kicked a ball in anger. If you had you would know the effect of the constant knocking of players – particularly young players. I’ll enlighten you; typical signs include reluctance to receive the ball, attempting extravagant passes instead of simple ones in attempt to get the crowd onside, missing chances. All of the above applies to Theo too.

    Get off his back and he’ll probably surprise you. Alternatively, you could get off the net and join a local football club…

    • Manamongst   •  

      It’s easier to hide shite in a field of roses than it is amongst average blades of grass…

      Having said that, I’ve played football and basketball competitively and the mentalities social-psychologically is interesting. Many in the UK have this over-fixation of worrying about confidence…and pressure. You don’t find this in Spain with football…or America with basketball. You either can or can’t deal with it or you find another sport. Ramsey is a grown-ass man. That gets paid thousands a week to play a game he loves. If he can’t be bothered to study his positioning or his role in the team shape. it’s interesting that now there’s the meme that he’s somehow afraid to take the ball. I’ll call bullsh*t on that as he clearly has no problem coming back to get the ball in safe areas. He’s known for months his weaknesses, and apparently has no pressure internally to work on those areas. England has a current run of bad habit examples of heros that are tainting a large portion of the players coming up Lampard and Gerrard come to mind. He reminds me a lot of those players in that they don’t truly carry anything tangibly different than the average player than end results. And this is the largest problem with the initial love affair with Ramsey…the continued blind support and apologist rhetoric. Passively waiting for him to become the next golden-boy. This prototype of player is obsolete.

      • k   •  

        I’d also like to know what makes you a better judge of his talent than anyone else as well. Curious to know how you’ve so readily decided that he is at the peak of his abilities and won’t grow any more.

        • Manamongst   •  

          because he runs into triangles and seems pressed to make things happen at his current skill level, instead of playing the position properly and be tired in 68 minutes instead of going off script and running around ineffectively in an attempt at looking busy with a high work rate.
          He’s like that guy that volunteers at the soup kitchen and is given the job of washing dishes, and he comes back 15 minutes later saying “done”. Only to find out that he’s only washed the forks only and only just rinsed off the rest of the dishes.

          I haven’t decided that he hasn’t grown anymore. He’s woefully the wrong style of player for our team. Not saying I’m a better judge at all. If 75% of the Gunners fans I talk to from Mumbai to Palma share the same opinions and say and see the same things I’ve seen in his game then come on. In certain sports there certain things you have to do…In Tennis after you hit the ball it’s typically advisable to go back to center. Just like in Football, when you play on a team it’s usually a good idea to have a plan on ‘what do I do with the ball when it comes to me here’ when the ball gets there. Apparently Raamsey doesn’t fell that he’s really obligated to follow that. And in turn it affects the next two or three team mates that try to recieve the ball..typically, negatively. Everybody wants that Lampard time on the ball, but most don’t have the skills to buy it. Add him to that list please.

          • k   •  

            Isn’t he tasked to make something happen, playing in his position? When he does he’s a hero when he doesn’t he’s Denilson. And in the absence of Wilshere and before Rosicky recovered some sort of form, wasn’t it his job to make the game plan, and not follow it? Surely that’s what he was supposed to do as a designated playmaker.

  23. SENSIBLEGOON   •  

    Well said. Young player has come through a potentially career shattering injury, far too much asked of him this season, still has the potential to be great for Arsenal. And we ask for loyalty from players.

  24. Onenil   •  

    Totally different players, I’m afraid…

  25. R.S.P.C.Arsenal   •  

    Good post GS.. best in a while… i too think ramsay will come good, he just needs one of his lil tricks to come off and he will be back!

    its only been a year since hes back… give the lad a chance! otherwise we will have deninilson vack…ahhh!!

    its only a shame that when you delete morons and vretins from here, it dont stop them spouting there nonsense elsewhere i hope others do the same!

  26. Onenil   •  

    Well forgive me. Your opinion is clearly more valid than that of Cesc Fabregas…and Arsene Wenger…oh, and Alex Ferguson. I’ll tell the Spanish Fernando Torres to find another sport shall I when we share our next paella?

    You, my friend, compared Ramsey with Denilson. You expect the more creative attacking player to retain the ball better, and produce more successful passes, than the holding player. I honestly don’t mean to be rude but your understanding is possibly a little bit off. It’s like comparing Makelele with Ronaldo (either one)!

    Are you saying that Lampard and Gerard are bad players????

    • Manamongst   •  

      Clearly I only compared Ramsey and Denilson because they were grouped together in an earlier post and they are considered the two worst Arsenal players. That being said, I still think that Denilson is the better player and could play the positions that Ramsey played more competently (that’s not saying much better though). You missed the whole plot with the Torres joke…but a wonderful example either way…tell me if there are whole Chelsea posts aimed at protecting his “confidence”? But again…apples and oranges…much longer drought…much different position.

      The point I made about Lampard and Gerrard is that these were different types of stars in different times for players. They quickly running out of terrain in their current age and pace, and players now will only pick up bad habits by emulating their current style and approach to the game. This and several other problems are endemic to English football, and hinder…all the way down to team selection, positional counseling of transitional youth levels to transitional professional players. Football IQs are generally border-less and could be a saving grace.

      And oh yeah praise from a former player excludes him from what in concern to what every other player has to go through and learn along the way? He was no where near where AOC is now…a lot of the English golden boy watchmen would like to have you believe that but he still has the same bad habits that he had before his injury which is suspect in my book. He doesn’t strike me as one that studies the game.
      Thanks for playing.

      • Allow the hate   •  

        Did you watch the Wigan game? To be brutally honest, the Ox did fuck all. But one bad game does not make a bad player.
        The reason Lampard and Gerrard are now shite is that they’re old, not that football has moved on.
        Finally, the post wasn’t to protect his confidence, it was to tell the mindless drones such as yourself who always need someone to blame, to take a hike.

  27. BnT   •  

    I think what Aaron needs to do to improve his all round game is master the art of backflicking.

    Go on Aaron give us another backflick!

    And the crowd begin to sing the Aaron Ramsey song.

    Oh Aarron oh Aarron,

    He came from Caerphilly,

    His shitty backflicks dont look at all silly.

    Aaron Ramsey, coming on loan to a midtable team near you soon as we pick up the tab of his bloated wages.

  28. R.S.P.C.Arsenal   •  

    its easy for people to say vile things behind the veil of a keyboard….
    must make you think on the mental stability of someone like that….

    then again its whats probarly wrong with the world, total miuse of such a great tool the internet….

    anyway, would we be better off without CL football next year, our best form came when we was dumped out off it…

  29. Onenil   •  

    Football is a game of opinions – that’s why I love it! Gets a bit silly when it’s to the detriment of one of your own players though. I much prefer to criticise/lambast players of other teams ;-)

  30. simba   •  

    Ramsey is not an Arsenal type of player.fulstop

    • Manamongst   •  

      THIS!

      And YANN below me…get a clue…PLEASE!

    • Lee   •  

      What the fuck is an Arsenal type of player? For me, its someone that comes in and never gives up and puts in a decent shift on the pitch. If you mean he doesnt fit into our current system, say so – but dont spout bollocks about an Arsenal type player and use that as the stick to beat Ramsey with!

  31. yann   •  

    Rambo is 21. Midfielders dont typically peak until they’re 30. He’s got plenty of time, its not like he’s a forward. I think whats hurting him the most is the absence of Cesc Fabregas on the pitch. I think it will hurt Wilshere when he comes back as well. Cesc was great at instructing those two, and it allowed them to play “well beyond their years.” I will give them a year or so to figure things out.

  32. Gunner4Life   •  

    Good article. We need to move on and keep fighting for 3 rd place.

  33. Piecrust71   •  

    Personally, I’m afan of Aaron Ramsey. He’s a young lad playing football at the highest level, suffered a terrible injury, captains his country and, least we forget, chose to play for arsenal instead of manure. And don’t forget that he was at rvp’s side when the Newcastle twats were trying to get on his case. Ok, he haven’t played well for the second half of the season, so give the lad some slack. I hope he forms a great midfield partner ship with jack and frimpong that will serve us well for years to come.

    And for all you plastics – feck off and learn our great clubs’ motto, you might learn something.

    Go Rambo!

  34. ruffneckc   •  

    As Wenger said, “it’s hard going back to sausages (Ramsey) after you’ve had caviar (Cesc). When a team is struggling for creativity, you cannot rely on Ramsey as he struggles with that part of the game right now.

    This talk about “he never hides” is used with Bendter as well and if he had better control, we may have knocked Barca out last year in Camp Nou, when Wilshere set him free. Not hiding is not a substitute for class and Ramsay has a way to go. I believe he will come good as he has intelligence but he is not really contributing to the team right now. People love stats but Denilson had them and he never contributed either.

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  36. TR   •  

    It can’t be ignored that, for most of the game, he was actually covering for Song, who also had a poor game, but was very irresponsible positionally, not exactly helping a young player struggling for form. Ramsey is a good footballer, and just needs time to develop, it was just before he had his leg snapped that he was starting to get a run of games in the team, and was looking really impressive. I for one hope he can fulfill his potential. He is still very young.

  37. Munitionsman   •  

    There is no value in bagging any players. For as long as wenger is in charge we will win nothing. The last two games tell you all you need to know. Although we won the wolves game after going two nil up the precious ones just switched off. Job done. If you want to win something you need to have the mentality of putting teams utterly to the sword and playing at the same intensity regardless of the scoreline. Against wigan wengers tactical ineptitude was on show yet again and his refusal to buy a proper cf shown up for the insanity it is. We may be able to beat citeh but we have lost ten games this year. Wenger out.

    • Tim   •  

      I think its really funny that some people can find, basically, anything to complain about. Would it have been nice for the boys to keep pushing it a little harder in the Wolves game? Sure of course. But we had just played a game on Sunday, had that game on Wednesday and were playing again Monday. Oh, and we had already put up 2 goals in ten minutes on a team with no confidence whatsoever, who were now playing with 10 men after only 12 minutes of the game. We won that game 3-0 for gods sake, thats a clean sheet and was a perfectly fine away win during a busy week of games. You honestly wanted all the boys to push themselves to the limit for the remaining 80 minutes, purely for the sake of a big scoreline?

      This team did put up 7 on Blackburn this season, if you remember, so obviously they are capable of ‘putting teams utterly to the sword’. A 3-0 away result is more than enough and was an easy win.

      The three points are what count in the end.

    • Allow the hate   •  

      So is RVP not a proper CF? He was on the pitch and we lost.
      Don’t complain about winning 3-0. You sound like an idiot.

  38. k   •  

    Course we should sell him. Selling people is the easiest solution innit? I wish we’d sell the entire squad mind, they’re all useless. Even Robin, he hasn’t scored as much as he has in the start of the season, what a load of rubbish. Sell.

    Oh and before I forget, don’t forget to blame Wenger. Doesn’t really matter he hauled us up from the shitpile at the start of the year. Entirely his fault we were in the situation in the first place.

    Ramsey is a piece of bollocks too. Can’t pass, can’t score, he’s the welsh Denilson. Can’t wait for Wilshere to get back. Though if he’s going to struggle for form like Ramsey does, we should sell him as well. Wilshere better hit the ground running, don’t want him slowing the play down or finding his feet when he’s just recovered from a full season out, we’ve got no time for that nonsense.

    Just don’t sell the Ox. If anyone will save us, he will.

    P.S. GS, you’re asking for perspective from Gooners? We’re the worst set of fans in the world at getting perspective. While I’m proud to be a Gooner, the fallout from yesterday makes me cringe.

    WENGER OUT! RAMSEY OUT! EVERYONE OUT! (except for the ox)

    • guillaume   •  

      K, Brilliant mate! Sell those fans too if we can.

  39. Radders   •  

    You lot of whinging toerags should just shut up.

    Ramsay will be a very good member of the team in the future, he is coming back from a serious injury and it will take time for him to get back to full strength and ability. He will be the future of Arsenal, with Wilshere & Song. Just as much as we wont see the best of Ramsay until next season, we wont see the best of Wilshere for another season yet.

    Ramsay is an international with undoubted talent and those who criticise him are just idiots who like to pick a target and scream at them. What that idiot hopes to achieve is beyond me, go & support some Lilly Livered club of whingers down the road instead.

    Ramsay was not to blame for the Wigan defeat, he wasnt even on the pitch when we went 2 goals down. The first goal was a dubious offside and the 2nd was breakaway when Arteta was injured & it was his job to stop the breakaway but he couldn’t. We had more of the play, more of the possession, more shots on target and more chances for goals. They have beaten Manure & Liver(hoof)ball this season, so it was never going to be the pushover that some fans expected.

    The Ox is a young prospect, very similar to Walcott at the same age. He may get better but it is easier when you come onto the pitch with the team needing a goal and are put on the wing, whilst the opposition is defending, and are allowed to do your thing without having to take responsibility for the team, as Ox has had the opportunity to do time after time from the bench when Wenger has put him onto the wing.

    Yesterday showed his lack of experience, not his lack of talent, in that, instead of playing a role where he could almost forget his defensive duties, he had to settle into the centre of the pitch where the real dogfight was. Who looked the far better composed player on the night, the seasoned international Ramsay.

    We didn’t lose against Wigan because of Ramsay, we lost because sometimes it happens like that and I always refer back to the Final of the UEFA Cup against Galatasary, when we dominated and should have won and lost on penalties with all the greats including, Viera, Adams, Seaman etc. etc.

    If someone doesn’t understand football, they should not make comments that make them sound like an idiot.

  40. Ex-Pat Gooner   •  

    Abusing a player on the pitch is rarely worthwhile. Occasionally if they clearly dont give a rats arse what happens, and they’re strolling around like they’re on the pitch, I can see some justification. But that’s not the case with Ramsey. He works extremely hard and remember he’s not the one that decides he should be subbed on before OAC.
    Abusing him on the pitch will simply going hurt the Arsenal team as a whole, which if you’re a fan clearly shows you’re not very bright.

  41. Wegrice Weguamba   •  

    I read an interesting interview with Cesc Fabregas, wherein he said that his year at Barcelona has made him a better tactical player than he was at the Arseanl. At the Arsenal, Cesc was given license to run everywhere he wanted, and at Barcelona, he’s part of a well-trained structure of tiki-taka.

    Maybe it’s not young Aaron’s fault that he’s running around like a headless chicken. Maybe it’s a deficiency of his training at the Arsenal, where he’s not given specific tactical direction and positional drilling, and given more to impromptu jazz-hands improvisation.

    I think we need to give young Aaron a chance. He’s only 21, and he’ll learn more as he plays more often with wise old heads like Arteta, Benny-yoon and Rosicky. Central midfielders tend to mature later in their 20s, so let’s lay off him, okay lads?

    • Shaun   •  

      Of course it is not Ramsey fault ,the blame should lie with the football romantic wenger …we just play are football , no attics , no plan b in this day an age .yeah sure when you have hardened pro’s who are exoericend at the highest level .unfortunately you have to earn your money with young raw talent as they need direction but hey I believe all arsenals problems and failings are firmly at management level but that is my opinion ,I feel this long post about Ramsey is crazy as no one player is to blame .come on arsenal are now like a broken record , we get into the top four ……just , in all competitive cup’s we are out in a two week period with serious embarrassment to go with the nice dose of failure .you just think change is required and why does an intelligent man like wenger not do what is required …. Smacks of stubbiness well you no what I mean .the Ramsey situation with a little thought you could probable find the rationale in wengers thinking of playing the poor lad to death after the 21 year old had a double leg break .he then goes on to publicly state the dangers of overplaying young players and the bone astrophy problems that can occur …just have to think a bit more I guess as the obvious seems worrying

  42. Wegrice Weguamba   •  

    By the way, I understand young Fabrice Muamba is now out of hospital and galavanting around the streets of Bolton. Well done, lad! I wish you a hearty recovery and a long life filled with laughter, joy and shiny trophies for the club of your first love (the Arsenal!).

  43. Radders   •  

    The comment about Cesc is a joke – at Arsenal Cesc played the same role as Messi does at Barca and Rosicky now does for us – you can only have 1 player playing that role, so if you are playing at Barca WITH MESSI you have to play a different role to Messi and that means being more regimented and controlled and that is the only reason why Cesc is given those types of instructions at Barca, whereas he was given a free rein at Arsenal to play the Messi role for Arsenal.

    The same principle applied when we bought Freddie Ljungberg, at Halmstad he was given a free role to go anywhere, but when he came to Arsenal, with all the great players we had, he had to play a defined role.

    Ramsay does not run around like a headless chicken, virtually the whole game went through him because he demands the ball and gets it and hardly ever loses it. That is the mark of a very good player.

    Considering the start we had to the season, the losses in personnel from last season and the bad injury problems we have had this season, it is astonishing we sit one place better than we ended last season – has nobody even thought how well the team and the club are performing to achieve that.

    • Wegrice Weguamba   •  

      Well said, Radders! I feel completely at ease with the output of the Arsenal now that you have put my suspicions to rest!

    • Wegrice Weguamba   •  

      My comment had more to the statement by Cesc that he’s been learning more about the tactical side of the game at Barcelona than at the Arsenal.

      Even if you’re given a free role, you’re still given a tactical brief of the team’s strategies and plays. Otherwise, how do you know where the players are going? And how would you now where and when to pass? In fact, as playmaker-in-chief, Cesc should have the best idea of all Arsenal’s tactics…. which he just said consist of him running wheeever he wants.

  44. omar   •  

    All i will say about ramsey is that i wouldn’t want him playing for another club. He is a gem. The second season he had prior to his injury was magnificient. The goals scored if you look back on it are very good quality goals. Yes he lacks speed and a slight incisiveness in passing but i feel that that will come with time and moreover he is probably more comfortable playing alongside wilshere. This allows to play just behind the front three like what stev-g did for liverpool years ago. All of you talking shit about ramsey can GThell!!

    We have to remember that we are clogged up in midfield with diaby wilheres, OX, benayoung, arshavin to return.

  45. haresh   •  

    its true to every extent the article. but i strongly disagree to the fact that the ox cannot be as good as ronaldo, yes he can.! besides our performance particularily our defence, it showed that koscielny was pivtol throughout our season.! Djourou is no koscielny, he has a very dim future.! one koscielny returns he will bring the best out of the team.! our defence dint have much of a work against wolves, wigan made best use of koscielny’s absence.! lets hope for the best.!

  46. Gerard   •  

    I’m not a fan of Ramsey, but I admit people are on a witch-hunt whenever Arsenal is stunned. I think playing him as the CAM is terrible for the lad, as he is very slow at making decisions. However, when played as a semi-winger (think Benayoun), he’s also below average.
    So what I’m thinking is the guy would be better used in our old 4-5-1 formation, as he would pass sideways to distribute and spread the defense.
    I’m also unsure why Diaby would be above him on the pecking order. Always injured, looses his cool (remember that 4-4 vs Newcastle? All Diaby and Rosicky) and I can’t really picture him above or even near Alex Song.
    Leave Ramsey alone, booing him is not going to help us win games, really.

  47. A   •  

    Reckon barca fans are calling fabregas their Ramsey lol

  48. Frode   •  

    We’ll see just how good Chamberlain becomes, but what he has shown so far, is spectacular. He has 5 dribbles per 90 minutes in the premiership. That’s impossible, almost Messi like numbers. I think it’s more fair to compare what he has shown with Rooney, Wilshere, Fabregas than Ramsey.

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  50. pooprscoopr   •  

    Ramsey is hugely overrated simply because he is British. He is slow, turns over 2.7 times per game and is poor in possession. He wastes time and impetuous with his poor attempts at skill. He really needs to look at arteta to learn the basics before he tries those stupid flicks.

  51. Spiller   •  

    I really don’t get how people can compare Ramsey to Denilson. My main gripe with Denilson, which I thought would be shared with everyone else, was his workrate and committment.

    I haven’t seen Ramsey ever overtaken by a referee when tracking back for goal conceding counter-attacks.

  52. abdullah   •  

    Ramsey is definitely playing bad no doubt. But its stupid to say we shld sell him and he is a mid table player. SAF was interested in Ramsey, but he chose Arsenal Because of Arsene, if Arsene is stupid so is SAF?? He is definitely not ready to play first team football regularly yet. trust me if Ox and Coq has been asked to play week in and out they will struggle too. I believe in rambo’s ability. He played fantastic for Wales at Wembley i can remember. Din’t some of our fans want to Sell RvP becoz he is made of glass?? and Cesc and Na$ri left not bcoz Arsene is greedy for money(its not like he is getting commission after every sales), they left bcoz they want to leave. At this level you need confidence skill hard work and most of all high level of CONCENTRATION, which is difficult to expect from all young lads. Like its mentioned in the blog he is definitely working hard and he knows he is not playing well so things will change for good. I hope its happens soon. I hope same things doesn’t repeat with Wilshere or Ox. Ox is excellent but he dint have a clue what to do against wigan when the defence is so tight and organised, coz of the hype he might hv thought he is Messi. My opinion.

  53. Daniel Pearce   •  

    Most of the fans baying for blood proberbly wouldn’t have given a young TA a chance nor the Romford Pele.

  54. Goonerhaea   •  

    Ramsey will come good, no doubt about that. For one, he is not all that terrible at the moment. The way I see it, even two mistakes a game is too much for some fans. When you look at the stats at the end, he is not that bad, and i thought he has generally improved the last two games.

    Good luck to the lad on Saturday. I know very well he will do his job. What I noticed is he gives more of an attacking threat than Arteta does because he roams around the box looking for opportunities. i hope that adjustments will be made for this because it’s Arteta’s complacency in this that has greatly improved our defence and kept us less open on the break. Those Wigan goals explain that.

    To those fans hurling abuse at him. Buy yourself a pair of boots and go try out for the Arsenal team. he is doing his job and clearly you are not doing yours- supporting him- How hard is that!! If he does come good and teams come ofering him tonnes of money, then you will be tweeting him this and that, ungrateful fools.

    • Bona   •  

      I agree with you. Ramsey will come good, but in the Wigan game what bothered me was: When he lost the ball he just strolled around like a pregnant peacock. He realy looked like Denilson and that just ain`t good enough. I don`t expect much, but I expect 100% commitment, Ramsey was giving 60% max. That ain`t good enough.

      Also the booing from the stands is in fairness aimed at AW and rightly so. AW has fucked up this club if late. And I`l bet 100 pounds on arsneal finishing 5th, you want to take that bet?

  55. Oblossamoss   •  

    As far as I see it Ramsey has all the componants to make a top quality dominant midfielder. What he lacks currently is the consistency, confidence and cuteness of the required level of decision making.

    Will he get there? Who can tell, but he is young and has a good technical base. I have a worry that he will get alienated by all the nastiness aimed at him and will end up (via another intermediate team) as Man utd’s main midfielder for half a decade.

  56. Jan   •  

    Just checked stats on Uefa.com about two London teams home performance against Barcelona

    Last night.
    Possession: Chelsea 28 % – Barcelona 72 %
    Goal Attempts: 4/1 and 19/6
    Corners: 1/8

    Last year in North London.
    Possession: Arsenal 41 – Barcelona 59
    Goal Attempts: 10/7 and 8/5
    Corners: 4/1

  57. Gooner for eva!   •  

    Wow, I’ll get right to the point the reason I feel why so many arsenal fans are so quick to release there frustration is that we were in my opinion the best arsenal team I’d ever seen not to long ago and were used to winning things to suddenly relying on half if not most of the team of kids to win us things and its been way to long since, that is where the real frustration lies, don’t take it out on ramsey his desire and winning mentality shits all over D*nilson’s, instead look at the board they IMO are holding money, a lot of it back in fact for there fancy new cars and there gay pet stylists for there poodles, look at the bigger picture its the board not one player!

  58. mop   •  

    Some of the poster said ramsey has a great engine and 100%? what drug are u on? FYI he didnt get into 50:50 challenges and he was joggin when backtracking juz like denilson does….holding too long….stupid backheel and 360 turn….no pace….doesnt bring the ball forward like rosicky…lightweight…..dreadful finisher…..i wonder what wenger sees in him….he is a waste of space…its like 10 vs 11

  59. Chris   •  

    Sounds like a bunch of five year olds arguing, shut up and support or fuck off and flame someplace else.

  60. Santori   •  

    WELL FUCKING SAID!!!

    Excellent perspective gunnerblog.

    Some fans need to get their heads out of their arses.

    Ramsey isn’t half as bad as much as Chambo isn’t quite baked yet.

    Give the lads proper encouragement.

  61. Santori   •  

    Ramsey is lacking two ingredients at the moment.

    1) Defensively he is needs to put in more aggression. If he plays with that much slightly more edge, he will improve ten fold.

    2) He needs to play the ball quicker. He has fantastic vision for his age but he needs to find the pass slightly quicker. Again, Rosicky was on the pitch against Wigan to no effect. I hardly see why the ‘so called fans ahev turned their invictive on Ramsey solely. Illogical to say the least.

    Perspective please.

  62. GunnerNic   •  

    IN WENGER I TRUST

    In Arsenals’ fans I have no trust, fickle fucking phonies.
    Disgusting.

    Support your manager, support your team or go support the cunts down the street, the next guy who boos Ramsey near my seat I’m going to smash his face in. If you see a commotion in the stands when we play Chelsea, you will know why. Enough is enough.

    • Annie Brosterhaus   •  

      GunnerNic if you pay me 500 quid I’ll let you into our bathroom after Arsene’s taken a nasty dump, you can stay in there as long as you like and inhale deeply. I’m sure it will be inspirational for you.

      • GunnerNic   •  

        Haha, I’m not the one needing inspiration, just cynical fans like you that are driven by results only.

        • Kem - Wenger is a cunt   •  

          Yep, results aren’t important at all.

          What silly fans we are!

  63. LG   •  

    Ramsey, at 21 (?), is a wonderful squad player. Given a fit squad he is, arguably, behind Song, Wilshere, Arteta, Rosicky, and Diaby (when fit). Is there a team in the country that possesses a sixth choice central midfielder as good as Ransey? Dare one even raise expectations and realise Wenger’s midfield as one that is bursting with talent?

    He doesn’t, as another post suggested, have till he is 25 to step upto the plate. In reality he has two years, at which point it would be sensible to expect Arteta and Rosicky to no longer hold key roles (due to either the ruthless efficiency of Wenger’s crusade against age or the natural deficiencies of a further two years of top level football). At which point expectations will then have to be realised. Heck, he runs a lot, he can certainly be the Welsh Jung See Park (*spelling) and that is quality enough to earn a squad place at a title winning club.

    He doesn’t possess the trickery of Fab or Rosicky or even The Ox. Rather he is a player in the mould of a future Arteta. A player that does pass sideways: retaining possession and spreading defences. However he has also shown that there is more to his game: He surges forwards; has an eye for goal (though a slight adjustment in his contact prescription is called for); and undoubtedly has mental qualities in abundance. He is captain of his nation and did anyone else notice that in the midst of the Krul vs. RVP showdown Ramsey actually confronted the captain and restrained him directly? RVP didn’t react to this as though it were a slight on his authority which is highly indicative of Ramsey’s own standing within the dressing room and the respect he has garnered: one which Wenger too must recognise and influence his persistence with the Welshman despite a run of poor form.

    I for one believe that Ramsey should be given his two years at a minimum. But if he wears the shirt with pride and continues to fulfil a role and service the squad then I would have him ar Araenal till his legs give out. This isn’t blind love – the requirements have been listed.

    But I do love him.

  64. RVB   •  

    Ramsey, Ox, Wilshere & Walcott are all good young players. But not good enough yet.

    Players good enough for the Arsenal : RVP, Vermaelen, Sagna, Szczney.

    I think Walcott is coming up. He’s the real one to watch. He’s improving in the right areas. We’ve just hyped him up too much in the past.

    Can’t wait to see these players grow, hopefully with us.

    Winning some trophies along the way would be nice.

  65. dave   •  

    I will be first to admit that I am one of those who is frustrated by Ramsey’s recent games.

    We know how good he can be. There was time when Cesc was still around that in the games where we lack directness, I felt relieved when Wenger brought in Ramsey.

    That time, I thought he could be a better CM for us than even Cesc for some of the Premier League games!

    It’s because I know how good he could be that it frustrates me to see how this boy messed up with even the simplest task or pass.

    His mental fortitude is definitely one great quality that this squad sometimes lack. I don’t think he deserves all these abuses, not even when his name is Chamakh.

    But if we were to be serious with winning trophy, we can’t afford game after game after game for Ramsey to discover his form. And this applies to any other player too.

    I hope the summer break will be put to good use by the boy to get his head right and come back strong next season.

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  67. Me   •  

    Who gives a fuck???

    Really like.

    Some unknown tit on the internet comes on a fucking blog, makes a rude comment for shock value & all u muppets do exactly what he wants!!!

    When peopple make such statements, they do so for a reaction, for attention, for their own entertainment.

    Dont be so predictable & boring by reacted the way he has told u.

    Does he control u?

  68. Makanaky WO   •  

    Hello Everyone:

    Its been a while……

    Re Ramsey:

    – Currently the YOUNG Welshman is suffering from a lack of tactical drilling,his positional and spatial awareness are quite poor for the kind of role he is expected to play within a team like Wengers Arsenal.

    HOWEVER, this does not make him a bad player at all, so the focus of blame lies solely with Wenger, who thinks young players can suddenly become superstars in a hardened,top drawer and rather cynical League. The best solution as already espoused would be for him to be an understudy to a more experienced player like Arteta, not the main man in a team of Arsenals stature.

    Again the other often overlooked problem is the lack of a decent bench/Plan B- if Ramsey or any of our top players is having a stinker, the paucity of options on the bench i.e. the Chamakhs, Parks, Schillachis etc place an unreasonable burden on the likes of Ramsey and Oxlade Chamberlain who by rights should be introduced to games not expected to win them from losing positions.

    In both instances it points to poor management from Wenger and until we clear out the dross and replace them with useful experienced heads we will never see the best of such talents like Ramsey and Ox.

    • Wegrice Weguamba   •  

      I think I espoused that view, Manky.

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