Who is Stan Kroenke? The fans have their say…

Who is Stan Kroenke? It’s the question everyone is finally asking after he bought up ITVs 10%. If the other major shareholders are willing to sell, he seems the man most likely to be at the helm of any takeover. Now, at this stage, I could produce a poorly researched piece on Stan The Man’s bio. Or I could just point you in the direction of Wikipedia and stop pretending to know things I don’t.

What I did do was go and ask the people who know all about Kroenke and the benefits he can bring to a club: the fans. The folk over at the St. Louis Rams NFL team, who Kroenke co-owns, didn’t have a huge amount to say but were nonetheless positive:

“Kroenke is a straight up guy. He lives in Missouri, but owns teams that also are in Denver and has never threatened to move them. He wants to win, and will spend money where necessary in order to do so. You got a pretty good minority owner in Stan Kroenke.”

So he probably won’t be airlifting the Emirates to Missouri. Which is a relief.

The view from NHL side Colorado Avalanche was fairly consistent, whilst Kroenke is a good owner, he’s a bad, bad man. They’re not a big fan of his connections with Walmart:

“He is a great person to own your club if you want him to spend money on your team(i.e. have a winning team) You know that his pockets are almost endless. Our dynasty would not have happened without the man and his willingness to spend and his general “hands off” approach. He trusts his managment teams to run the club. On a personal level, I absolutely hate what he stands for and the personal values he holds. Anyone that is part of the Walmart ownership lacks a basic set of moral values and any respect for workers. He is bad for the American fabric and small towns everywhere.”

“Love him as an owner, hate his family.”

And so what of the Colorado Rapids – the soccer franchise that has led Kroenke to his investment in Arsenal:

“To date, Kroenke and KSE have shown no interest whatsoever in soccer or the Colorado Rapids. The GM is a business person with no soccer background. The Rapids front office is amateurish and its web-site poorly managed. Enough said!”

“What the above quote fails to mention is that KSE just spent millions on a new soccer facility for the Rapids and from everything we fans can see the budget for the team has gone way up going into the 2007 season. Kroenke is not a very public figure. He doesn’t seem to be involved in the day to day operations of the Rapids. He’s seems to see soccer as a good investment with a lot of growth potential in the US.”

“Kroenke sees sports as a business. There’s absolutely no chance that he bought into Arsenal so he could sit in the stands wearing a scarf and singing songs. And I doubt if Stan pays much fan attention to the various sports teams he is fielding. If Competitive Dwarf Tossing was to start a league, the KSE organization would be out there beating the bushes for the most aerodynamic little people they could find.

That said, Kroenke tends to run his businesses in a professional manner and delivers on his promises. When he bought the Rapids, he said that he would build a stadium and he delivered a first-class soccer complex. I think that as a businessman, Stan realizes that teams have to win in order to be profitable. He wasn’t afraid to spend money for the Avalanche and he’s taken the Nuggets from a useless collection of stiffs to a (somewhat underperforming) assortment of talent.

By the way, you don’t think that Americans are buying EPL teams for the personal gratification of owning a piece of history, do you? In the US, sports is a very lucrative business. They buy into teams because they see a wonderful financial opportunity. When you feel Kroenke’s hand on your wallets, you’ll know why he’s there.”

Interesting stuff. I’ll allow you to draw your own conclusions, but it’s worth reading what the Arsenal Supporters Trust say in the Guardian.

No transfer news today. I’m too tired for all that rubbish. I talk about it briefly on todays arsecast though.
Thanks for the co-operation of a bunch of American people.

Gunnerblog is the brainchild of childbrained football writer James McNicholas. Aside from Gunnerblog, James currently contributes to Bleacher Report, The Mirror and ESPN.

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  3. RL   •  

    Very in depth Journalism, good job.

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  5. lase   •  

    “…and his general “hands off” approach. He trusts his managment teams to run the club. ”

    i hope that is true but then wtf is wrong with these americans?

  6. tubes   •  

    at the end of the day i think arsenal need to be taken over to keep the club performing at the highest level, im not for one second saying we should become chelsea mk2 but the stadium debt we are in means we will be struggling to compete in the transfer market for the for-seeable future, it would be nice if we had someone there who had enough money to say to arsene “buy who you want” and to be honest i still dont think he’d go for the world superstars but he’d be able to pick any players he wanted. thats my sensible comment for the day even though it probably dont make that much sense!

  7. Gelbs   •  

    Be funny if he sacked Wenger pmsl.

  8. tubes   •  

    no it wouldn’t that would be plain stupid.

  9. tubes   •  

    and stop pissing yourself when you laugh.

  10. tubes   •  

    i think this is gonna be a slow day on here today what with everyone in england off for the holidays… Gelbs you can stay on here till 14.00 and keep me company?

  11. Gelbs   •  

    £10 pounds an hour. I accept PayPal.

  12. tubes   •  

    i dont make that much myself.

    lets have a conversation, who would you buy for arsenal in the summer if you had say £30 million to spend which is what we’re led to belive wenger has.

  13. Gelbs   •  

    Not sure. Need a goalscoring winger but no idea who that could be. Maybe a striker as well. People rate that Huntelaar so maybe him.
    Gonna head back to bed I think anyway lol.

  14. tubes   •  

    please yourself, sleep tight.

  15. Gelbs   •  

    Xxxxxxxxx

  16. tubes   •  

    what a nice bloke.

  17. Alans   •  

    Find it interesting how everyone just jump on the band wagon and think new signings will sort us out.

    Myth1 : Franck Ribery will score goals galore – well he scored 6 the whole of last season and 3 so far for Marseille. Want a goal scorer – check how many more Wiltord has scored for Lyon ….
    Pauleta sounds more of a poacher than him…

    Myth2 : Rosiscky is great and Hleb is shite. Well it seems that Rosiscky is riding on his world cup reputation. Apart his cup display in Anfield , he has done bugger all. He is a lazy player who can’t be bothered. Hleb is hopeless at scoring but at least he carries the ball and can beat players. A useful addition to the squad. But most can’t see anything wrong with TR I would look at Malouda.

    Myth 3: Cesc is great – well he would be if we could pair him with a solid defensive midfielder. Cesc is a playmaker but does not have a physical aspect to his game. Gilberto does provide some cover but he is not Vieira. Few remember that Gilberto was never first choice as partner for Vieira – Edu used to come in and provide competition.

    Myth 4: We have sufficient strikers. With Pires, Bergkamp and Reyes gone we are struggling. RvP is more of a winger than striker – like he plays for Holland. Only TH14 is a 30+ goal a season player in the team. We should rid ourselves of Aliadiere and Baptista and look elsewhere. Ade has done great despite the abuse , he adds heart and energy and has scored crucial goals.

    We have sufficient defenders and Jens should asked to stay. We need to bolster the midfield- may be then our strikers would get the service required to score goal galore and we would not need Etoo

  18. ron   •  

    gelbs why are u going to bed at this time?

    confirms what i always suspected…social reject.

    tubes, what music do u like?

  19. tubes   •  

    i like all sorts – ash, oasis, james, kasier chiefs, guns n roses and some happy happy hardcore. you?

  20. tubes   •  

    the hardcore bit was a joke, just in case you didn’t realise

  21. Good to be a GOONAH!!   •  

    “””RvP is more of a winger than striker – like he plays for Holland. “””

    you’re a moron… do yourself a favour and watch more football

  22. ron   •  

    G2B, do u mind my prediction?

    spurs got beat, so i am still on 100%

    all i need now is that big win 2mo…

    tubes, all music, except happy hardcore

    u seem to like indie a lot

    if u like GNR u should try other rock, id def recommend led zepplin, listen to that double CD greatest hits…great when drinkin a carry out..

    after being stuck in a boring, quiet office all week i long for the weekends, especially friday nites. i love getting pissed, all mates slagging eachother off, seeing who pulls the biggest mess (i never win that)

    and 2nite they are shutting the pubs early. bastards. what right do they have to take away my highlight of the week? why is this enforced? not everyone is religious, the ppl that want to should be allowed to choose whether they want to stay out or not

    fucking holy joes

  23. WillyG   •  

    On Arsenal.com,A.Wenger was asked about Dani Alves,The Future of Flamini,and about Baptista and Jens future….If any of you are subscribers pls tell us what the answers to those questions are….thanks

  24. tubes   •  

    what about this:

    keeper
    eboue toure gallas clichy
    gilberto
    cesc rosicky
    rvp ade henry

    that would work well.

  25. ron   •  

    i think he said he wasnt interested, otherwise itd be all over the sun, ssn etc

  26. tubes   •  

    indie would be my prefered choice, i know what you mean about the pubs shutting early, its shit, although some aren’t opening at all.

  27. WillyG   •  

    Ron,to be honest that is what I expect But what I`m hoping for is that he did NOT say “Dani Alves is a good player but we already have a great squad and we will not buy anyone,and now Flamini is our Vice-Captain”

  28. louisquatorze   •  

    The fact that the Nuggets are no longer the joke they were when I left Denver four years ago makes me more optimistic than I would have been. At least he can run teams and make them work. I don’t want a takeover, but in some ways at least it’s someone I know.

  29. dan   •  

    read up about kroneke in forbes and his personal fortunes is USD1.8billion. unless he is going to take out a loan there is no way he is going to spend at least 700million for arsenal

  30. Sniff   •  

    That was really quite interesting stuff. Nice job mate.

  31. tubes   •  

    some people dont know the meaning of the word “canteen” – some ass wipe is eating fish and champ behind me and it fucking stinks, i’d say something only he’s bigger than me.

  32. ron   •  

    im eating tuna sandwiches at this very mo!!!!!!!!

    ppl are prob saying the same about me…

    today is really exciting.

  33. tubes   •  

    do you not think people call you an ass wipe no matter what your eating ron?

  34. ron   •  

    proably more along the lines off ‘handsome guy, quite muscley, really enjoys his work cos he is always laffing at the computer’

    all the women are prob thinking, ‘well i certainly would…’

  35. tubes   •  

    i think we’ll agree to disagree this time then. any plans for the easter weekend?

  36. ron   •  

    bot 2nite, guna have to try & squeeze in more drink in less time, think i can do that ok, but the women i will chat up prob wont so i’ll get a few slaps

    i’ll get drunk for the next 4 days

    i like gettin drunk

    real life is just boring

  37. avendesorax   •  

    Kroneke Sports Enterprises could this mean we change the stadium name to “The Asda Arena”

    On another note, we need a new 20 goal a season striker, if this means swaping or selling Henry to Barca and getting Et’o, so be it.

    Why does Arsene insist on playing Freddie, he’s just rubbish now!

    Play Hoyte in place of Eboue and stop the stupid hand wringing over Eboue’s fitness.

    Drop Toure, he’s been over played and is now making to many errors, we’ve got two of the best young central defenders in the EPL so use them.

    Cesc needs a body guard in midfield, someone who will just sit and play the simple pass, or take out an attacking player, Flamini, Denilson, Diaby are not that kind of player, Flamini whilst he’s got a lot of heart, he’s just not good enough at attacking or defending.

    Denilson, he’s new and needs at least another full season under his belt before we can make a judgement.

    Diaby, proberbly the one with the biggest potential out of all the central midfielders at the club, but unfortunatly he’s not a defensive midfielder, so who does that leave us with? Gilberto Silva’s future at the club is in doubt no matter what anyone say’s he might not be here next season.

    So that leaves us at the moment with Song who’s at Charlton getting rave reviews week in week out from the manager and fans, is this what Arsene was thinking when he sent him out on loan??

    Let’s just hope that on Saturday we play an attacking duo of Adebayor and JA, (please leave the Beast at home )

    ——————Lehmann—————-
    Hoyte—-Djorou—-Gallas—-Clichy

    Rosicky—–Cesc—-Silva—-Diaby

    ————– Adebayor —JA————

  38. hassan   •  

    On Arsenal.com.Wenger was asked about Alves & flamini rumours, about Baptista and Jens future.If any one watched the interview please tell us about what he said.

  39. ron   •  

    avendesorax, very insightful, top post man

    who is our player of the season?

    baptista?

  40. Gelbs   •  

    Arsene Wenger :

    ” I am not interested in Alves as we already have better players in Eboue and inparticularly, Hoyte. And his brother Gavin will also be the best inside 3 years time. As for Flamini, I will sit down with him and tell him he is so important in my plans. He is one of the best midfielders in Europe and is very underated. He and Fabregas are the future of Arsenal and both are much better already than Vieira was. As for Jens, we still don’t know, but I am interested in getting Massimo Taibi if he wishes to go. In general, I will only purchase a few youngsters this summer, and noone else because our squad is amazing and it isn’t like we finished 20 odd points behind the leaders last season and currently. Keep up the support and remember……I KNOWS”

  41. tubes   •  

    i retract post #16.

  42. tubes   •  

    avendesorax, “hope we play JA” seriously?

  43. tubes   •  

    nice sleep gelbs?

  44. Gelbs   •  

    Was only a nap. Slept thru night but went back for a couple of hours. Both times I woke up feeling aroused and had to ejac.

  45. Gelbs   •  

    I really hate Wenger. Why does he buy kids all the time. He should have bought big experienced pros like Ronaldino or Ettoo and we prolly would have won the treble. Jose is a better coach and this season I have been watching more and more of Chelsea matches and enjoying them. The strange thing is that I have began supporting them more than Arsenal now.

  46. tubes   •  

    i dont belive post #45 was gelbs.

  47. Gelbs   •  

    See my idol is trying to imitate me. As for Kroenke, he is worth 1.8 bil? That in dollars or pounds? ‘Coz if it is the former, it isn’t as much.

  48. Gelbs   •  

    So what? Believe what you want. I have drank and jerked off too much that I do not care what I say as long as it is the truth.

  49. gooner09   •  

    gelbs- post 40 Lol! but it still sounds like arsene wenger init!

  50. Gelbs   •  

    I would rather we be bought by Roman’s wife than the Kroenke guy. She prolly got more from the divorce. But only if she does not sign Shevshenco.

  51. gooner09   •  

    lmfao

  52. Gelbs   •  

    Useless cunt can’t even spell Eto’o right nor Shevchenko. Since when did I have a lisp?

  53. tubes   •  

    its in dollars.

  54. Gelbs   •  

    Pretty lame then. Not as much.

  55. Gelbs   •  

    Eh? Since when. This hangover is killing me. I tell you what? Its fun to post like myself but in a slightly different way then I can say what I believe in and nobody will think its me.

    I am prolly brighter than Wenger.

  56. ron   •  

    gelbs, what is really wrong with u?

    tell me about your childhood?

  57. Gelbs   •  

    Dollars!! But I heard he was reacher than the guys who bougth manure and liverfool? Give me abramo’s bitch.

  58. gooner09   •  

    GELBS, TUBES………… i have an idea. why doesnt gilberto silver set up a chatrooom so we can talk properly? that’d be better.

  59. Gelbs   •  

    I wanked all through my childhood. Hence the wisdom that emanates from me. Try it Ronny boy and Rural-gonna be yours.

  60. Gelbs   •  

    I’d prolly get banned.

  61. Gelbs   •  

    Gooner09 , you cannot talk in chatrooms unless GS installs yahoo voice or something like that. Chatting you can. Talking no.

  62. tubes   •  

    whats the difference between this and a chat room? excuse my ignorance, im not that hip with technology.

  63. Gelbs   •  

    Do you people know where I can get a broad cheaply? I am ready to pay but not sure where to start.

  64. Gelbs   •  

    Tubes chat rooms are for the sophisticates like Gooner09 while mortals like us get stuck in blogs. Now please tell me where the broads are.

  65. Gelbs   •  

    You moron stop stealing my name. I know where to get the broads for a fee. At least to copy me pretend to know the things that I know.

  66. WillyG   •  

    Gilbersilver do you have any info on what Wenger said about Alaves,Flamini etc

  67. gooner09   •  

    gelbs, me a sophisticate? hahaha lmfao !!

  68. ron   •  

    u remind of someone that isnt liked very much, you know it & thats why u are the way u are.

    “i dont care, i didnt want it anyway”

  69. ron   •  

    I was thinking more of a cunt gooner09. No such thing as a sophisticated cunt. Wankers.

  70. ron   •  

    looks like the talented mr ripley is out in force today as someone (gelbs) has stole my identity

  71. gooner09   •  

    ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  72. ron   •  

    Post 70. Stop stealing my name please. Don’t be so mean and cruel. Nor fair mate.

  73. ron   •  

    hhhhmmmmm capital letters, cant spell ‘not’…

    at least do it correct

  74. Gelbs   •  

    Lame.

  75. ron   •  

    gelbs, what do u work as?

  76. gooner09   •  

    gelbs did u mean lmfao? Lol!

  77. Gelbs   •  

    gelbs, what do u work as?

    Your pimp.

  78. ron   •  

    im bored at work too, but surely we can have a better conversation than this??

  79. GilbertoSilver   •     Author

    He said Flamini s going but Alves is just press talk.

  80. ron   •  

    has he said anything about buying new players in the summer?

  81. Gelbs   •  

    Gutted I am not working today.

  82. Gelbs   •  

    I thought you were still at school gooner09?

  83. ron   •  

    thanks for the gunnerblog link…

  84. gooner09   •  

    yeah lol
    im in A level but i have a job not proper like u lot lol

  85. ron   •  

    what A levels?

  86. gooner09   •  

    ron- what do u mean?

  87. gooner09   •  

    A2

  88. Gelbs   •  

    A Levels= Arsenal levels?

  89. gooner09   •  

    ron and gelbs- how old are you guys?

  90. tubes   •  

    thats better – just had a meeting with one of the fit office staff and she dropped her pen, she bent down to pick it up, i caught a glimse of her clevage, everybody’s happy.

    p.s i think she fancy’s me as she parked her car next to mine the other day, watch this space….

  91. gooner09   •  

    tubes, lol

  92. tubes   •  

    gooner09, im 26, ron is 25, rural is 29, Gelbs is 26.

  93. gooner09   •  

    Im 18, Lol. Have a look at the link post 94!

  94. David   •  

    I hope the “sold to the USA” chants dont come round to bite us in the ass.

  95. Gelbs   •  

    I’m 25.

  96. tubes   •  

    i was close gelbs.

  97. Gelbs   •  

    Amazingly.

  98. gooner09   •  

    need to go eat. :)

  99. ron   •  

    u said u were doing A levels. i asked what A levels were u doing.

    tubes, everyone is not happy. i didnt see any boobies! now im upset.

    she parked beside u??? your well in there!! did her bumper rub up against your toe-bar??

  100. tubes   •  

    (.)(.)

  101. tubes   •  

    the above is likely to be the closet thing you see to boobies this weekend ron!!!

  102. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    As you can tell by my name I’m opposed to non-fan ownership of football clubs. At least Peter Hill Wood and David Dein are Arsenal men. This corporate scumbag ‘Stan’ Kroenke is only interested in what he can make from the club. Arsenal have already taken a step towards utter soullessness with the giant corporate hospitality box that is the new stadium, selling the naming rights in the process, and now the club are allowing a member of the walmart (spit) clan to worm his way into the club.

    Furthermore, anybody who supports this investment/possible takeover IS NOT in any form an Arsenal fan, or even a fan of the beautiful game and should be ashamed of themselves.

  103. Gelbs   •  

    Looks more like an arse with two boils on each cheek.

  104. ron   •  

    bit harsh…

    but they say u judge others by your own standards…

  105. ron   •  

    Furthermore, anybody who supports this investment/possible takeover IS NOT in any form an Arsenal fan, or even a fan of the beautiful game and should be ashamed of themselves.

    why? because u say so?

  106. Gelbs   •  

    first gun

  107. tubes   •  

    No al Calcio Moderno, i could tell you was opposed to a take over from looking at your name.
    if not afraid to admit it ron, my standards are low.

  108. tubes   •  

    - could
    + couldn’t

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  110. Gelbs   •  

    think u were right the first time tubes

  111. tubes   •  

    No al Calcio Moderno, we’re gonna have to be taken over eventually otherwise we’ll lose more and more ground on the big 3

  112. Gelbs   •  

    what big tree?

  113. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    the one u fell off when u were a wee boy

  114. tubes   •  

    is there a new thread?

  115. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Ron,

    The whole purpose of a football ‘club’ is that its a CLUB, to be a fan is to be part of the club. What exactly does the club being taken over by an American business mogul do to improve Arsenal as a ‘club’?

    Nothing.

    Sure he might splash loads of cash around, but I mean we may as well all start saying we support Tescos, or Nike, because essentially we are supporting a greedy, disgusting, immoral business.

  116. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    i stopped reading after ‘Ron,’

  117. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    if u think the club is not already a business then u have a wee brain

  118. tubes   •  

    1 hour to go till im off for 1 whole week….

  119. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    I 100% agree with you that the club is a business, and I 100% understand that the current way football is run is as a business. Snide remarks such as yours really do not help your arguement, speaking of which you haven’t stated your position on this,you merely took offence at my comment about ‘Furthermore, anybody who supports this investment/possible takeover IS NOT in any form an Arsenal fan, or even a fan of the beautiful game and should be ashamed of themselves.’ and haven’t countered that

    However, despite the stadium naming sale, and the fact that the club badge was changed due to the club not being able to copyright the old badge, Arsenal are still owned primarily by Arsenal fans in Dein and Hill Wood.

    Now I believe that the club should be owned entirely by fans, in a trust (though they have let themselves down on this one by not voicing opposition) or other form. But surely being owned by business men, but who also actually care somewhat about the club and the game in general is a lesser evil no?

    We should oppose any takeover.

  120. gooner09   •  

    No al Calcio Moderno- mate we cant oppose every takeover because football is a business these days and wenger admitted himseelf b4 that we wont be able to compete for major honours in a few years time coz of the likes of chelsea, pool, and man utd being owned by rich businessmen. so we should maybe let someone take over so we have fukin cash to spend.
    this is why all the others are getting better!

  121. Little Dutch   •  

    No Al Calcio, Dein wasn’t an Arsenal fan before he bought into us, he saw it as a business opportunity, same as this American dude. I just hope he doesn’t throw his weight around and tell Wenger what to do. Fiszman is another majority shareholder, he goes to no games and lives in Switzerland, Lady Nina has no interest in the club. To say we are currently run by a load of diehard Gooners is a pleasant fiction.

  122. gooner09   •  

    :)

  123. gooner09   •  

    RH aitn postin much no more i thought he was king of the blog!

  124. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    whether my stance is for or against is not that issue that i took up with you. it was the fact that u declared if someone supported a takeover then they ‘were not a real fan’.

    i feel that is a rather silly thing to say, rather juvenile in-fact.

    if someone doesnt agree with YOU, then they arent a fan of arsenal.

    we are all entitled to our opinion, some fans may want a takeover. who are you to tell them they are not a fan?

  125. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    I didn’t say we are run by a load of diehard Gooners, but there is at least some semblance of an interest in football there somewhere.

    What’s the point in competing for major honours if there is no soul to the club??

  126. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Explain to me then how one can call themselves a fan whilst supporting this takeover?

  127. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    No al Calcio Moderno, close the door on the way out.

    you have lost your own argument.

  128. gooner09   •  

    i hope the takeover does go ahead we need i sad to say though!
    but wenger will say no thank you i love my kids

    lol

  129. Gelbs   •  

    Don’t support Arsenal then Calcio,

  130. Gelbs   •  

    Don’t support Arsenal then Calcio.

  131. gooner09   •  

    Gelbs- do u want this takeover to go ahead? coz i do!

  132. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    How have I lost my own argument?

  133. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    many fans will feel that if the takeover goes ahead, then the huge financial constraint we are currently suffer from will be eliminated.

    therefore allowing us to buy a couple of ‘big names’, & compete with the rest’s spending power.

    does this mean there not real fans?

    fuck off back to your own world where u are the ruler

  134. tubes   •  

    see you later everyone, and if you miss me to much you can read back through the posts, have a good weekend and happy easter.

  135. Gelbs   •  

    Gooner09. In Wenger’s case it won’t mean shit because he’d never spend any money anyway. I don’t want us to spend like that cunt Roman neither. But to have money if needed is a nice thing to have. I am not totally sure, as I would prefer a British bloke to do it and preferably someone that supposed Arsenal lol.

  136. Gelbs   •  

    Supported not supposed lol*

  137. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    buy buy tubby.

    do u see what i did there, with all this take-over talk.

    im a genius.

  138. Rohan   •  

    Do you lot want the takeover to happen? I’m on the fence.

  139. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    im sittin in the office, is it cold out there?

  140. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Haha your calling me juvenile?? Telling me to ‘fuck off’ is a constructive way to argue your point.

    My point is that there is more to football than spending loads of money and winning loads of trophies. There’s no joy there if the fans are alienated from the club. It’s a very narrow view to just look at success on the pitch and ignore a sense of the victory being earned by the club as a whole.

    How can someone who claims to care about the club wish for it to be taken further out of their hands, support a takeover that willl ensure they have no vested interest in the club? There’s little left for a fan to cling to as it is, if they don’t feel a part of any success then what’s left to encourage support?

  141. Gelbs   •  

    Off topic, how is someone mentality tired? What exactly is it? As opposed to being tired is when you feel tired through doing too much pyschically?

  142. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    no i had won your argument, then i told u to fuck off.

    now run a long little boy. its over.

  143. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    *sigh*

    I’m trying to have an educated and literate discussion. It isn’t about winning and losing the argument. You are offering very little to the discussion at all. This is an important issue and your apathy appalls me.

  144. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    you are a cock.

  145. Rohan   •  

    Yeh Ron… not cool

  146. Gelbs   •  

    Not important at all. Fans won’t influence the decision. Just look at United and that cunt Glazer. Never got their own way.

  147. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Gelbs, I think it might be due to the brain being fatigued due to being over worked in times of high stress or concentration.

  148. Gelbs   •  

    Lol. So in theory, your aren’t tied pyschically, only the brain thinks you are or something?

  149. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    apathy is cool.

  150. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    physically!!!

  151. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Well if your tired mentally then your brain can’t communicate effectively to the rest of your body. Reactions will be lacking etc.

    I suppose the brain is responsible for eveything that happens in the body so if its lacking then so will everything else

  152. OOH2BA   •  

    where’s blog head today

  153. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    so, what your saying is that you were mentally tired when u made that silly post about the take-over.

    no probs, i’ll forgive u this time

  154. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    i heard blog head is in a spanish prison…

  155. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Look if you want you can contribute to the discussion on the future of the club you support or you can continue to take jabs at me.

  156. a typical moron   •  

    fabregas has been shite for the last two months

  157. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    im quite happy taking jibes at you for now

    thanks for your permission.

  158. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    You very obviously don’t care then.

  159. gooner09   •  

    gelbs re post 137..yep true.agree with what you said and wenger probably wont spend alot BUT i dont think roman was a chelsea fan but he still brought them success.

  160. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    i do care but i find it difficult to have a discussion with ppl who say things like ‘your not a real fan’ & ‘go & support chelsea’

    whether or not the fans oppose it, it is inevitable, & within the next 10 yrs.

    i feel the clubs directors dont really care about the fans opinions, obviously they will say the opposite but to them we are simply customers.

    they will make a decision that will make the most business sense.

  161. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    I didn’t say go and support Chelsea.

    I made a very strong and perhaps overly aggressive statement about being a true fan. But it’s what I believe and I have given reasons as to why I believe that. It doesn’t make me a ‘cock’ or mean I should ‘fuck off’.

    I for one don’t want to just accept that ‘that’s just the way it is’ and watch the game of football be destroyed completely. I find it hard to stomach that there is a lack of anger about this.

  162. missourigunnerfan   •  

    Hi – first time poster here. I’ve been an Arsenal fan ever since I first saw them on the satellite. I’ve followed some of Kronke’s teams for over a decade. I think he probably would be more like Hicks & Gillette or Glazer than Ambrovich, but he has the money to go up against anybody, and he’s a very smart owner. He finds good managers and lets them do their jobs. I’m sure he’d hold onto Arsene.

    One thing that will make his Arsenal ownership experience different than his other teams is that I think this is the first league where he will not have a salary cap to worry about in a long time. The Rapids, Avalanche, Nuggets, and Rams are all in leagues with a salary cap. Before the National Hockey League instituted their salary cap, the Avalanche won the Stanley Cup twice. He paid what it took to keep the best players on his team.

  163. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Does he even care about football? I’m suspecting no.

  164. Gelbs   •  

    Who cares Al Calcio. You won’t be complaining if we win shit by spending money down the line. You think Chelsea care?

  165. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    the reason we started arguing is because you said if u support the takeover then your not a real fan.

    i said that was wrong.

    u didnt say ‘go & support chelsea’, but many other ppl on this site have, along with ‘your not a real fan’!!

    im just fed up with ppl making statements like that. after a defeat, or when we arent doing so well i get angry & make suggestions as to what i feel needs to be done differently.

    i get told, ‘if u just want trophies go & support chelseal’ & ‘why are u slagging off ur own team, your a spud’.

    it seems if u have an opinion that may differ from arsene wengers, you are stupid. so, you should only come on this site if u are going to say good things apparently.

    being a true fan must be; just follow blindly without contrasting opinions, whatever wenger does is right.

    now that is stupid.

  166. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Yes I understand that Ron and I agree with you on that although I stand by my befief that people who genuinely support the club will oppose the takeover.

    Gelbs – I don’t want to see us win due to this scumbag’s money. It would just be a completely hollow victory. I’d rather we were relegated but still had a soul than we won the champions league and improved our branding in the United States.

  167. Gelbs   •  

    I am all for the takeover if it was done professionally and decently as opposed to spending money like Chelsea do. That is one thing I wouldn’t want. But aren’t we getting ahead of ourselves here? No takeover has been launched.

  168. ron - overdosed on omega 3   •  

    i wouldnt say that i would rather the club got relegated!!!

    i would rather we won stuff without the aid of this money, but the club is a business & we may need his money to keep us among europes elite. the clubs dependency on developing youngsters is already evident & if the board allow the gulf in finanaces to grow, there is a possibility that we will become a selling club!!

    there is a small chance that this group of youngsters may see us through reasonable success while paying back our loans, but there is a fair chance that it will not.

    the board may decide that they cant take that risk.

  169. adam   •  

    assuming he pays about 450 million pound for the club, thats about 890 million. wikipedia says he has 2.1 billion american.

    no way he will be able to pay cash for the club, so he’d have to get finance. maybe 300 million pounds or so? thus instead of just having stadium debt of 300 M, minus 100M highbury profits in a couple years, we’d also have this loan hanging over us, which he would expect to pay back with club profits.

    as we have debt agreements on the stadium loan, which restricts our net transfer spending, the introduction of a new owner would not change transfer spending unless he renegotiated the loan agreement.

    so my thoughts are that we will still have the debt we have now, and also we will be expected to service and pay off the debt he uses to purchase Arsenal, while not having any extra money to spend on transfers.

    if anyone knows any facts which contradict my argument, or if you disagree with my logic, please set my mind at ease, because i am not liking this at all.

    we’ll be like manchester united except with restrictions on our transfer spending, and about the same overall debt. not good.

    cant understand why you guys all seem happy with this after the entirley justified comments about man usa, liverpool = franchise and chelski dirty money.

    the fool who said rosicky was lazy and has done bugger all, you know fuck all about football thats obvious.

    and as for ribery not being a goalscorer, was pires a big goal scorer before he came to us? more important than scoring goals is the ability to get behind defenders, cut teams open and pull defenders out of position, to create chances.

    god its been a while since we created any! makes me wish for the days when we created 25 chances a game, even though we scored bugger all of them.

  170. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    There is absolutely no way on God’s Green Earth that I will be excited by any takeover. It would me a hypocrite to an extreme, slating teams like ManUre and the Chavs and Pool, whilst advocating whoring ourselves out.
    We are a club of class and tradition at Arsenal – selling out to Kroenke in the end would be tantamount to whoring ourselves to some evil Yank conglomerate, hell-bent on worsening the lamentable conditions of the already poor. As GilbertoSilver’s piece says: any man that has affiliations of ANY KIND with Wal-Mart (whom I believe, are the world’s multi-national corporation with the biggest annual revenue) is pure and utter vermin, and I want him to have nothing to do with our club.
    His moves are obvious and repugnant, I am sick that he already possesses a 9.9% stake.

    I have said this before and I will say it again: I do not care of Kroenke coming means we will have a world 11, I would rather win naff all for years than sell out to some pernicious US conglomerate. Fuck that no thanks.

    If AFC sell out to this scumbag, I am done with football and Arsenal. I mean it. The club would really have lost a large slice of its soul by doing any such thing, in my view. The thing that makes me most proud about Arsenal throughout these past few years is, that despite the Oligarch Mafiosos’ activities down in Fulham; despite Pool whoring themselves out to all and sundry, and despite ManUSA’s acquisition – Wenger has been fighting the good fight, in the face of serious adversity. No doubt about it. Every victory with our limited methods, has an extra satisfaction to it.

    That disappears if we start entering bidding wars with the Chavs, Pool et al. Pathetic. I know Wenger may or may not spend the money – but this is besides the point really.
    I am absolutely against a takeover of any kind. I am Arsenal till I die, always have been and always will be.

    But my principles are stronger than anything else. If you look at the decrepit state of the world and especially, the Third World today; it is in large part an indirect consequence of the selfish, greedy and avaricious nature of men like Kroenke. It is individuals such as he whom lack moral fibre or human compassion – they would merrily hemorrhage their own mothers or rape their own grandfathers for the sake of a few additional pence of profits. I will not stand by and be party to the club I have loved my whole life; becoming merely another cog in some rich man’s playground.

    I do not care if market laws and the global order of the day mean a takeover is ‘inevitable’. We should make a stand -although I know our business-minded shareholders, as Little D. stated, are hardly Gooner die-hards. So they’ll sell out.

    And the day they do that, I’ll hand over my season ticket to some Yank Colorado-Rapids exchange-student glory-hunting franchise wanker.

    I mean that.

  171. Gelbs   •  

    Don’t think you will Respects lol. You will always support Arsenal just as much as me or anyone else. Any true fan could never just think “fuck this” and walk away and not follow Arsenal anymore. And he could be a top bloke. Don’t be so judgemental lol. I’d rather it be a Brit billionaire and an Arsenal fan. But doubt that happen. Takeover will happen eventually. Even if it isn’t for another 20 years. Prolly be better than an Arab anyway. Only thing I’d be concerned about if it was taken over by a yank, is The Emirates being used as a so-called terror attack via allegedly over-taken planes with terroists on them and crashing into it lmao.

  172. Amos   •  

    The only reason for Kroenke or anyother businessman to take over Arsenal is because he believes he has the skill, resources and knowhow to add value to his investment. This isn’t an Abramovich type deal with a financial benefactor looking to pump short term money into it. This is a man whose business is sports marketing. He can use Arsenal to sell its own brand and others products all around the world and probably do it a lot better than the current owners. By doing so he can increase the income stream substantially.

    As Gelbs has said we may be getting ahead of ourselves as no takeover has been launched – but it is looking probable. Much will depend on whether Wenger will sign a new contract and the timing perhaps will relate to that. Any new owner would almost certainly want Wenger to see the next 2-3 years through.

    Does it really matter who owns the club? Not anymore in truth. Football has been more and more of a business since the establishment of the Premiership and the CL and since it sold, inevitably, out to television money. We might all fantasise about supporters owning the club but this wouldn’t enable us to meet the commercial reality of competing at the highest level in world football. We might all wish it to be a family owned company but that isn’t the world we inhabit either. Neither of those scenarios are possible anymore and haven’t been for a long time. The best we can hope for is that whichever hands the club falls into, they are good enough businessmen to maximise the huge potential that the existing board and Wenger have created.

    Much as we might, nostigically at least, regret it, there isn’t much to be too afraid of either.

  173. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    My thoughts exactly Respects

  174. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Finally a kindred spirit on here!!!!

    We have to stand firm against any take over.

  175. Amos   •  

    nostigically = nostalgically

  176. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    Gelbs: don’t get me wrong. I will never stop loving Arsenal. I will always follow them and want to know how they are getting on..etc…however I would compare this to an ex-wife scenario: you loved her, she was your first and only true love kind of thing. However you have irretrievable differences that lead you to part ways – even though you still love her. Does not mean that you will ever stop loving her, and does not mean you will not forever have her welfare and best interests at heart…if you see what I mean? And Gelbs I HAVE to be ‘judgmental’.

    Kroenke’s status as a Wal-Mart corporate lynchpin says it all for me I’m afraid. The man is an avaricious troglodyte, and I have no time for him. I judged him a very long time ago. I cannot rant about Abramovich but at the same time, condone Kroenke. They are both very active parts of what is totally wrong about the world today, especially in the Third World.

    Anyway…ALANS r.e: post no.17.
    Sorry to say but, I am going to follow on from where Good To Be left off: with the greatest respect; what the hell are you on about? If there are any ‘myths’ to be had, then they are all found in your post! Where to begin…erm…ok.

    Myth 1: You claim Cesc has ‘no physical aspect to h is game’. Not true. If you go to games Alans, you will see that this is the part of Cesc’s game that he has improved the most. Wenger had told Cesc that he would not let him do any muscular gym work until the age of 19, so as to not stunt his physical development. And you believe Cesc is not great? Ok Alans. So then tell me, just how it is a boy of 19 is able to be the second youngest to ever represent his country, the youngest player to represent Spain at the World Cup, a European Footballer of the Year for under-21s at 18; able to single-handedly dismantle a team of Juve’s quality in the Champs League quarters…a fulcrum of the Arsenal side at 18…unless of course, Wenger has not got a f***ing clue what he is on about that is…

    Myth 2′: RVP is more than a winger than a striker’
    So Alans tell me then. If RVP is indeed more of a winger than a striker, by my estimates, he is one of the highest goal-scoring wingers in Europe. Prior to his injury, he had the best goals-to-games ratio, and still does. So, if we have this fantastic goal-scoring winger, how come everybody is clamouring for one? And since when has playing on the right-side of a 4-3-3, playing on ‘the wing’? Nonsense, it is called playing as the support striker in a front 3!

    Myth 3: According to you, apart from his cup display at Anfield, Rosicky has done ‘bugger all else’ and is ‘living off his World Cup reputation’?

    Oh Dear.

    I take it you did not watch the Champs League game at Hamburg then? Or did you not make it to the Emirates to see Rosicky win Arsenal a tough league game at home to Wigan? Perhaps you were blindfolded when he ran rings around the Spuds after coming on for the Carling Cup semis – oh, AND he scored. Maybe you thought the reason we lacked so much urgency in the second leg at home to PSV, had nothing to do with the fact that Rosicky was out injured?
    Or maybe, just maybe, Inter Milan are desperate to gift Arsenal FC £14 million for a player that has done ‘bugger all and is living off his World Cup reputation.
    If you told me to get rid of one player between Hleb and Rosicky tomorrow, then sorry but Hleb is on his bike! (though Hleb IS a good footballer)

    Myth 4: You mention Ribery and Pauleta in the same sentence. Suffice to say, one is a left-sided winger for Marseilles, whilst the other is a mediocre goal-hanger for PSG.

    That will be all.

    Have a nice Easter all.

    P.S Gelbs, what ARE you doing over Easter?!

  177. Gelbs   •  

    P.S Gelbs, what ARE you doing over Easter?!

    Lmfao. Prolly fuck all. Apart from going out tomorrow and maybe Sunday getting pissed. Amazing :s

  178. louisquatorze   •  

    I guess my issue is that I fail to see how the current oligarchs we have running the club are hugely morally superior to an American oligarch that would take over. The Wal-Mart connection is reprehensible, but how did the current owners come into their money? It’s not a rhetorical device, I truly don’t know. Perhaps it is cleaner. But it could also not be.

    And Respects, I’ll take that season ticket off your hands. I’m a Yank and from Colorado…

  179. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    AMOS: Whilst I see what you are saying, I disagree that it is ‘impossible’ to run our club successfully, without takeover. Whilst you are justified in pointing out the Champs League as the start of an irreversible trend in the now corporate-football; at a glance you can see through Liverpool, that it remains possible to win the ultimate prize, with very limited resources.
    Claiming that a takeover would be a good thing would also be contradicting many of your own previous point Amos: you claim that Wenger builds for the future as a preemptive strike to counter the FIFA normative on home-grown players, and that Wenger has never needed to spend big. Well, if that is indeed the case, I think you will agree that it IS therefore viable, to remain working within the parameters we are currently operating in.

    Yes, I am aware that Wenger will call it a day soon – however, with our new stadium, ever-growing fan-base etc…I think it is a simple get-out clause to claim that ‘we have no choice as everyone else is at it’. Not true.

    I agree, as I said earlier, that in the bigger picture, this is a larger part of the global capitalist system engulfing football. However, if Hugo Chavez was able to stick 2 fingers up at the Yanks, and was resourceful enough to pool Venezuela’s natural resources together in a bid to advance that nation; Wenger and AFC can also afford to stick 2 fingers up at Kroenke.

    Again I repeat though: I doubt the board will. They will do what all cash-hungry business sharks do and sell out.

    What a shame.

  180. David A   •  

    Post 174 – Very good post Amos. As usual you show a lot of common sense.
    Everybody seems to be jumping on one side or the other but i feel we should wait until more details become available before making our minds up.

  181. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    LOUISQUATORZE: Very valid point on the origins of the current board’s money. However, if any of this is dubious, it drives from underhand business dealings in the cut-throat world of business – or in the case of Hill-Wood and Lady Nina-Bracewell; an inheritance from an affluent and prominent family.
    The fact is, in Kroenke’s case, it hardly takes a nuclear physicist to figure out what is clearly morally wrong with his involvement. Where to start…do we begin with the stories of Wal-Mart denying employees basic rights and medical care? Or do we persist with stories of illegal Latino immigrants being knowingly given jobs at ridiculously inferior rates, and being ruthlessly sexually exploited at times by reprehensible managers? Or do we talk about Wal-Mart being the global corporation with the world’s highest annual turnover, but being one of the worst companies responsible for the promotion of sweatshop labour, abuse of employee rights and, sabotage of unions?

    You take your pick. And no, you can’t have my season ticket yet Colorado Rapid! At least wait until Cunt Kroenke has a controlling majority stake!

    GELBS: Where will you go out? I didn’t know there was much to do on a Friday night on Good Friday. The family and I were going to go away but in the end, the Missus hopped on a plane without me! So I’m bloody well stuck here. By the way, that Arsenal fan that claimed you would ‘get your head kicked in’ (you know, the brother of the Everton fan) sounds like an utter mooncalf retard. Although I have always backed Wenger 100%, I can clearly understand, how someone such as yourself Gelbs, can voice your doubts over his potentially ‘fading ability’. Should not make you privy to a beating. Honestly, some people…

  182. Amos   •  

    RH- I am not saying that we can’t continue to prosper the way we are. I believe that as Wenger has done he would still be able to compete reasonably succesfully as we are for as long as he is here. My preference is for things to stay as they are but we all know they won’t. We might all romantically wish the club was in the hands of supporters but that is a Don Quixote world – tilting at windmills. Wenger won’t be around for ever and while it isn’t impossible it is unlikely that we would find another manager with his particularly unique set of skills. At that time we need to be sure that our income as a club can match that of other multi-national brands like Real, Barca and ManU if we are going to continue to compete post Wenger with a more conventional coach.

    What matters then is that the people who control the club know how to exist in the global world of sports marketing.

  183. Gelbs   •  

    Lol. Actually mate, it was the other way round. It was the Everton fan who works where I do who I walk back to work with who said it. His brother just happens to be an Arsenal season ticket holder. Never met him.
    I’m off out tomorrow night. Too much of a waste to go out 2/3 nights running, plus ron said the pubs shut early tonight, so be pointless anyway lol.

  184. Gelbs   •  

    Gonna order a pizza and watch a DVD. For some sad lame reason, I pulled out He-man with Dolph Lundgren in it lmfao!

  185. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    AMOS: Fair point. I agree, it is a little like tilting at windmills (nice analogy!) however, I am just really disappointed. You are also right to claim that we need to keep up with global brands like Real and Barca – but, we’ve done pretty well so far considering.
    You are right though Amos. It won’t stay the way it is forever.
    And it’s a dam shame.

    GELBS: Are you for real when you say the pubs really close early tonight? Bollocks to that then…time to rent a DVD.

  186. Gelbs   •  

    Not sure RH lol. Ron mentioned it earlier. Dunno if it is true or not may not be. Don’t take my word for it.

  187. No al Calcio Moderno   •  

    Pubs are early closing over here in Ireland.

    You know when you here the words ‘brand building’ your club is living in the sewers.

    I’ve made most of my points further up so I can’t be bothered typing them again!! But I agree with RH it is tempting to just walk away and sometimes I feel like giving up watching top level football. However we owe it to OUR sport to hang in there and win it back. The first hurdle is removing the great apathy when it comes to issues like this, and also convincing people that spending big and winning all is not the only aim in football, that there is more to football and being a football fan than being a mere consumer.

  188. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    Ok cheer nice one. This song from that Kaiser Chiefs band with the lyrics ‘ruby ruby ruby’…will simply NOT GO AWAY! Aaaaagh…anyway have a nice Easter all. And you too Gelbs.
    You must really try to not ‘ejac’ so often, you may well get married one day and find you’ll need to save some of it up! He he…anyway…later on! Off to the boozer.

  189. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    P.S Well said No Al Calcio Moderno…

  190. Gelbs   •  

    You too RH. Prolly be on here tomorrow anyway slating Arsenal against the Hammers lol.

  191. gooner09   •  

    gelbs/ RH – what channel is the game vs west ham on? sky sports?

  192. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    GELBS: Does that channel work for any PC? i.e. normal PCs and Macs too? Cheers…

  193. Gelbs   •  

    Yes should do. Though you have to pay. I subscribed back in the summer. You just need to download Winamp player. Don’t think it currently works with Vista though.

  194. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    Oh and P.S: do you need to pay or install special software to watch it? I am going to the West Ham game tomorrow, it was more for me to watch Spanish La Liga football from. Zaragoza are playing Barcelona tomorrow, and methinks it will be a cracker of a game!…I see we are still being linked with Samuel Eto’o according to the Guardian. Dount it will happen though…

  195. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    You just answered my question, cheers Gelbs!

  196. Gelbs   •  

    No probs. Good channel. Can be some minor hiccups but in general I have been pleased with it. Especially when in general you can’t watch 3pm games on a Sat.

  197. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    Oh and 200th Gun! Happy Easter then…

  198. Gelbs   •  

    Lol. Not sure if he shows many La Liga games though. Mainly EPL. And he is a Spuds fans lmfao.

  199. louisquatorze   •  

    Oh, I agree with you on Wal-Mart RH. Believe me. I’m just saying, I doubt that any oligarchs are completely clean. I want us to continue competing in the manner we are, which is a noble way of doing things. But it’s also clear to me that in the two years since Chelsea came into the picture in a major way, we’re losing ground. Do you think they or we would have Drogba and Essien if Abramovich’s money wasn’t a factor? Unfortunately, players are mercinaries. I’m getting the sense that if we continue under the financial model we have, our triumphs are going to be memories instead of the present. So do we continue? Is it better to slip into UEFA Cup slots or mid-table, or to sell out? I don’t think I can answer that yet myself. It’s very rock and a hard place for me.

    Although I still don’t trust Hugo Chavez, he always strikes me as going after an easy target (Bush & the US) as something to hide behind. I’d be more inclined towards him if he didn’t associate himself with the Holocaust-denying Iranian president. But that’s not a debate for here…

  200. gooner09   •  

    gelbs- cheers but im watchin it on somfing called tvants on pc. we’ll draw 1-1 or lose 1-0 lol

  201. gooner09   •  

    RH- the zaragoza v barca is on tv tomorow at 7.00pm on skysports 2.

  202. Gelbs   •  

    gelbs- cheers but im watchin it on somfing called tvants on pc. we’ll draw 1-1 or lose 1-0 lol

    Lmao. Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.

  203. *_Respect Highbury   •  

    LOUISQUATORZE: I understand your sentiments towards Chavez. To be honest, I 100% agree with you that he panders to the populist view by, going for the ‘easy target’ i.e the US. (Wish Blair would do the same at times vis-a-vis the EU…I digress)
    It is also true that one can never fully trust leaders whose roots stem from the military – their agendas sooner or later, usually come to the fore. With brutal and bloody consequences. BUT the point of using Chavez as the example was, it is an example of just how one can decide to go the course alone, and (relatively) succeed.
    I won’t get into the Iranian president – save to say, that although the man has his dubious sides, the UK and the US are the LAST countries on this earth that should be in any position to be lecturing the world on the virtues of morality (please see the daily death tolls, suicide attacks, check-point ambushes in Afghanistan and Iraq – or, take your pick from the systematic torture and abuse of enemy combatants in Abu Ghraib…the complete and total disregard for the Geneva Conventions etc.. Oh, and I won’t mention Guantanomo either).

    Anyway FOOTBALL: Basically LOUISQUATORZE, I agree with most of what you are saying. It is true that we will get left far behind, and are in a Catch 22. For sure. The Drogba and Essien examples are very valid ones too. However, I would rather sign kiddies or, failing that, the foreigner can have a small input into the club. But NEVER a controlling stake. Should never be allowed to happen. I would find it a sad day for Arsenal…

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